[OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

[Shalabh]

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Chris Fleming <me at chrisfleming.org> wrote:
>  On 17/07/10 20:40, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Michael Barabanov wrote:
>>>
>>> A poll could be something like: "Would you find a it acceptable if OSMF
>>> relicensed the whole dataset to ODBL without any data loss".
>>
>> It should really be "Would you find it acceptable if OSMF relicensed the
>> whole dataset to ODbL without asking for consent from individual
>> contributors, thereby making sure that there is no data loss, but
>> disregarding individuals who might be against the change?"
>>
>> If OSMF were to do that, they would likely be sued by a number of
>> principled objectors; we'd have to factor in a legal budget to deal with
>> that. It should not be too much because those legal advisers that have told
>> us that the CC-BY-SA would likely not hold in court would simply have to
>> tell the judge the same ;)
>>
>> Problem is, the principled objectors could also decline to sue OSMF and
>> instead threaten to sue users of OSM data that contains their contributions.
>> *We* believe such threats to be empty, but consider our users - one of the
>> reasons for ODbL is to achieve a legal certainty about using our data. Would
>> all this not lead to people *again* shying away from OSM for fear of some
>> poisoned bits of data?
>>
> I don't think that Michael was actually proposing that we actually do this,
> more just use it to get an idea of if people agree to the principle of
> moving to ODbL if the "data loss" issue wasn't an issue.
>
> I think that the majority would, there will be a few exceptions but IMHO
> ODbL is a much better license. From what I can tell most of the current
> descent is around what to do about CC-BY-SA data imports where the provider
> can't or won't relicense, or contributers that we can't contact.
>
> Cheers
> Chris

I dont think this is getting more inclusive at all, though the subject
of the message suggests so. For OSM users like me, who are only
interested in contributing GPS tracks and sketching JOSM tracks and
not at all bothered about the legalese, this is absolute nonsense.

For one, I dont care if my data gets used by anyone and everyone else,
much like Frederik Ramm. So, if someone could, in real layman terms
explain to me what all this means, I would appreciate. And I assume
and hope, there are many more users like me.

Cheers,
Shalabh
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