[OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

[Apollinaris Schoell]

I think it's a good idea but needs a good idea for the tagging with these different combinations and dividing.
neighborhood names are common in other cities too and well known to locals. So it is valuable info for osm and should be rendered too. currently some are added as place nodes and also rendered as such. having them as an area is even better.
sure there will be debates about exact boundary but over time either osm converges to the locally used ones or osm will tell people where they are and they may get used to follow osm




On 16 Jun 2010, at 6:13 , Ben Welsh wrote:

> At the risk of over complicating things, let me give a little more info. 
> 
> LA County is a fragmented place with many different cities and unincorporated areas puzzled together. Our "neighborhoods" are in fact three different types of areas consolidated.
> 
> 1. Cities divided into neighborhoods. i.e. http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/city/los-angeles/
> 2. Complete cities, drawn by their formal boundaries. i.e. http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/west-hollywood/
> 3. Unincorporated areas that are "Census Defined Places": http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/neighborhood/east-los-angeles/
> 
> On top of that, there are dozens of small unincorporated areas that are basically islands floating between everything else. We've lumped them in with a bordering neighborhood: http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/unincorporated/list/page/1/
> 
> Why did we throw all these together and call them neighborhoods? Because our goal is to have a single common denominator we can spread across the entire county and use for comparison. That's why we build them out of Census tracts, so we could rack up demographics about them all. i.e.: http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/income/median/neighborhood/list/
> 
> As time goes on, we plan to divide up all of the cities into smaller neighborhoods, not just Los Angeles, we did in a first round last year. In cases where cities have official hood boundaries (LA does not) we'll likely use those. 
> 
> More info about the project and process is here: http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/about/
> 
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:23 AM, John F. Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> This sounds like a good compromise to me, as most people will have a general agreement of where a given neighborhood is located, but differ about where the boundaries are located.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Avis <eda at waniasset.com>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:46:09
> To: <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk]
>        Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and r
>        egional boundaries for L.A.?
> 
> A compromose would be to add the centre of each neighbourhood (as locality=place
> or similar) but not the exact boundaries.
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