[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Open Imagery for Chile]
Jean-Guilhem Cailton
jgc at arkemie.com
Mon Mar 1 20:59:01 GMT 2010
Dear Julio, (it's easier for me to write in English, since you understand)
David writes:
"Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use
in Chile as well. "
My understanding, in this context, is that "wider use" would likely
include tracing by OSM.
(But no specific imagery is mentioned)
It would probably be best to ask him (and/or specific imagery sources)
for clarification, and also how the source image would be available.
Getting in touch with Chile institutions ONEMI and SNIT would certainly
be a good thing ("any effort should be centred on their needs and
guidance"). I see there is a contact at ONEMI for the Charter at:
http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
I have heard that Chile has now decided to accept the help of the
international community. This would be a way people from abroad could
contribute, along with fellow Chile citizens, like those whose effort
you are organising.
Best,
Jean-Guilhem
Julio Costa Zambelli a écrit :
> (In English after the break...)
>
> Estimado Jean-Guilhem,
>
> En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo
> claro con la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la
> liberación de la licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén
> disponibles? (Obviamente la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none
> of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa)
>
> El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta
> resolución es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de
> todos los pueblos de la zona afectada.
>
> Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Julio Costa
> OpenStreetMap Chile
> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
>
> ##ENGLISH##
>
> Dear Jean-Guilhem,
>
> In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids
> response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license
> once their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters
> since Haiti and none of them received the same attention and
> dedication as Haiti" concerns me)
>
> The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery
> is quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area.
>
> Thank you all for your help and cooperation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julio Costa
> OpenStreetMap Chile
> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com
> <mailto:jgc at arkemie.com>> wrote:
>
> Hola,
>
> Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
> y
> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
> para detalles.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> -------- Message original --------
> Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile
> Date : Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100
> De : David Stevens <tazarkount at gmail.com>
> <mailto:tazarkount at gmail.com>
> Répondre à : crisismappers-chile at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:crisismappers-chile at googlegroups.com>
> Pour : Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
> <mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
> Copie à :
> Références : <68743.49937.qm at web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> <mailto:68743.49937.qm at web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>
>
>
> Mikel,
>
> I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.
>
> First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme
> that has been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to
> help all countries as well as regional and international
> organisations to access and use space-based information. It is an
> interesting mandate because it means ensuring access and use as
> well as building capacity. We don't produce maps. We ensure end
> users and their partners are able to do it and use it for decision
> making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with
> the government institutions responsible for emergency response and
> disaster risk management and also with partners supporting these
> end users. More importantly after the response phase is gone and
> the media chasers have packed their bags and gone after another
> spotlight we continue working with the Government as in the case
> in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the Civil Protection
> Agency rebuild and get ready including for the next hurricane season.
>
> We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the
> International Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in
> an emergency response we activate the International Charter as has
> been the case for both Haiti and Chile.
>
> The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the
> end products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available
> for free as was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and
> the Haiti earthquake. We are working to ensure that imagery
> becomes a bit more widely available and not only for mega
> disasters. We have been involved and supported 5 disasters since
> Haiti and none of them received the same attention and dedication
> as Haiti.
>
> Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for
> wider use in Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is
> being made available on our webpage
>
> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
>
> Two requests
>
> First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on
> available imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know
> there are several other portals as well with similar info but for
> sure our end users do access the UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first.
> Please feel free to replicate the info we have on other portals as
> well. We would appreciate a link to our portal. And we will ensure
> we include a link to the other portals. Please send us any info to
> include to the following e-mail: spaceaid at unoosa.org
> <mailto:spaceaid at unoosa.org>
>
> Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for
> suggestions. In Chile there are strong and efficient government
> institutions in place, both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should
> be centred on their needs and guidance.
>
> One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United
> Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN
> Secretariat and we are the UN Office responsible for promoting the
> access and use of space-based technologies and solutions. Space is
> our business and our mandate.
>
> Regards
>
> David
>
> David Stevens
> Programme Coordinator
> UN-SPIDER
> United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
> Vienna - Austria
> Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
> Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 - E-Mail david.stevens at unoosa.org
> <mailto:david.stevens at unoosa.org>
>
> On 28 February 2010 06:25, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com
> <mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Colleagues
>
> Can we replicate the true environment of sharing that began in
> the response to Haiti?
>
> We are all at ready to respond once we hear the needs for
> Chile. OSM is ready to map, CrisisCamps are planned, there is
> an OSM Chile community who we are trying to get through to.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
>
> Simply, we need imagery we can use. I was hoping this would be
> an issue we all could discuss in the next few months, but now
> the need is urgent.
> The basic question ... will licensing allow use of the raw
> imagery data for response?
>
> * DigitalGlobe, GeoEye: Are acquisitions planned yet? Will
> license terms be dropped again?
>
> * Google: If you post imagery, can you make sure OSM has an
> exception to the non-commercial clause?
>
> * UN Charter: Any possibility of sharing imagery with
> volunteer groups?
>
> * Chris Schmidt/Schuyler Erle: Would you be ready to process
> imagery again?
>
> All ... any other sources or thoughts?
>
> Best
> Mikel
>
> == Mikel Maron ==
> +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> http://mapkibera.org/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti
>
>
>
>
> --
> David STEVENS
> Vienna - Austria
> skype: tazarkount
>
>
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