[OSM-talk] new logo

[Robert Martinez]

On 05/16/2010 02:40 PM, Frieder Ferlemann wrote:
>
> I added a draft for a decision table here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/Logo
> If the table is the cause for more conflict than it solves, well,
> then the table doesn't help:) Feel free to edit.
>
> Greetings,
> Frieder
>
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Hello Frieder,

I have mixed feelings about this table and the wikipage:

* it is a good instrument to guide non-designer people to make better 
decisions (instead of having endless discussions with a crappy logo as a 
result)

* it is NOT an instrument that can claim to be a recipe for the best 
logo, every designer would weight different things and include/exclude 
certain things for valid reasons. I for example would have reservations 
about the equal importance of the "Vision" parts:
     idea of a map, world-wide, freedom, collaboration,
     versatility, growth, reliability, huge, participation,
     eye-catcher, not user group specific,
     not specific to shop owners + car navigation, internationalism


* it unfolds its full potential if there are many good contributions 
that qualify for a good logo


I'm profoundly sure that the involvement of non-designers in this issue 
should be to vote on something like a "top 3" logo list (not be defined 
by: "the best three there are" but by: "3 good logos")! And the problem 
is: there are way too few submissions that would score high enough in 
your table.
So in my eyes it boils down to one solution to this problem (as well as 
branding and design issues in general):

     There has to be a design department for OSM with authority and 
competence, and I think this table is a bad workaround for that at best.

My conclusion is a plea to the project management: please try to find a 
capable design team as soon as you can!
You won't get satisfying results in the long run if there are no such team.
In the meantime I suggest (with grinding teeth) using the table to get a 
result.


Robert Martinez