[OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

[Ian Dees]

On May 31, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Knut Arne Bjørndal <bob+osm at cakebox.net>  
wrote:

>
> On 31. mai 2010, at 21.13, Ian Dees wrote:
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Gustav Foseid <gustavf at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> How do, on the ground, you verify the name of a peak?
>>
>> You look at the sign. Talk to the hikers you passed on the way up  
>> with your GPS.
>>
>>> How do you, on the ground, verify a national park or nature reserve?
>>
>> It sounds like you're talking about the border of the park or  
>> reserve. As has been said before, borders probably don't belong in  
>> OSM. The name of a park is probably verifiable though.
>>
>>> All of these things might be properly marked with signs where you  
>>> are, but they certainly are not everywhere.
>>
>> If they are not marked, how do the locals know what and where they  
>> are?
>
> Please, take a vacation outside densely populated areas. Northern  
> Norway is quite nice: http://osm.org/go/1KyNf--
>
> Names are often passed by word of mouth, or learned from a map. You / 
> might/ find some signposted peaks, but I doubt it.
>
> If we are supposed to leave out every name that isn't signposted we  
> might as well just give up on creating anything like a nice hiking  
> map for Norway right away. And if we aren't doing anything but roads  
> we might as well use Google maps, they are quite good at that.

I don't think anyone has suggested that we leave out things I'd they  
aren't signposted. The "on the ground rule" is really for solving  
disputes and as a general guideline, not as a "you should never ever  
map this" statement.