[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

[Mike Dupont]

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Anthony <osm at inbox.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > David Murn wrote:
> >>
> >> Out of interest Grant, what other large-scale open source projects have
> >> changed their licence the way that OSM has?  In fact, changed their
> >> licence full-stop..?
> >
> > Wikipedia went from GFDL to CC-BY-SA.
>
> Wikipedia went from GFDL to a GFDL/CC-BY-SA dual license - with the
> help of the FSF.
>
> If OSMF wanted to go from CC-BY-SA to a CC-BY-SA/ODbL dual license,
> that would greatly simplify things.
>
>
Yes, that would make great sense, but I would like to see some more expert
opinions, expecially the people who build this entire open source thing to
begin with.
Did anyone ever contact Eben about this new license? The gpl was the basis
for the creative commons, and you are saying it is not good enough, so I
think you should be able to convince him as a lawyer about this.

If this new thing is really needed, then it should be easy to convince the
experts about it.

Here are two points I would like to see :
1. a porting of the new terms to other languages and jurisdictions.
2. a review and blessing of the new contract by the software freedom law
center, the open source institute and the creative commons

There is not even a porting of the new terms and license and contract to
other jurisdictions, or translations.
At least creative commons has tried to port itself to other places

You are asking people to agree to some contract that is not translated into
their language and may not be applicable in their jurisdiction, they might
even be minors, I find this needs to be looked at carefully.

Lets get the  license and contract submitted to  <
license-review at opensource.org>,  and to  <cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org>,
for even a discussion outside this little circle, even an opinion from
Lawrence *Lessig* or Eben Moglen softwarefreedom.org,  would greatly
interest me.

It should be possible to get bessings from legal experts and license experts
in the world of open source and free software. It should be possible to get
this contract reviewed and approved by OSI as well.

I personally will wait and see what people who I trust and respect have to
say about this topic who are not involved and not partial, some type of
neutral and calm review of the entire situation.

This entire discussion has gotten very emotional and personal, lets get some
neutral third party expert opinions.

mike
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