[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

Ian Dees ian.dees at gmail.com
Sat Apr 16 13:10:04 BST 2011


Wow, I still have yet to receive a straight answer from anyone and it
doesn't look like I will. The trolls have come out yet again. Sorry for
that. I have been beaten into submission.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Dermot McNally <dermotm at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16 April 2011 00:07, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for asking me (if this were a vote my answer would be "No", but in
> > the interest of moving on from this nonsense and keeping data flowing
> I'll
> > eventually say "Yes"), but the important part of my question was everyone
> > else -- the community of OpenStreetMap. When were *they* asked?
>
> FWIW I would have favoured earlier specific requests for a vote, but
> it's basically been an impossible position for the LWG from what I can
> see as an outsider. On the one hand, everybody wants to feel consulted
> about the change. On the other, plenty of people have complained
> throughout the process about being offered a half-baked solution.
> Turns out this stuff is complicated.


No, it's not complicated. When whoever it was decided that we need to change
license, the *first* thing that should have happened is a communication of
the desire with the community, information about it presented clearly and
thoughtfully, questions responded to in a timely manner, and a vote held by
the active mappers to confirm that yes, this change should be pursued.

Instead what happened is... none of that. I appreciate the hard work of
those that spent the time to draw up the new license and work with a small
fraction of the community to make decisions on it, but I think they put the
cart before the horse.

Anyway, I apologize for bringing this up again and degenerating talk@ into a
field of flames. I was hoping to get a straight answer this time. I'll go
unsubscribe from talk (like a lot of others :) ) and click the accept
button.
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