[OSM-talk] Fwd: Moderating / Quality checking OSM contributions -- was: Re: OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

[Mike Dupont]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:
> Forgot to share with list as well.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>
> Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Moderating / Quality checking OSM
> contributions -- was: Re: OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
> To: mick <bareman at tpg.com.au>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:23 PM, mick <bareman at tpg.com.au> wrote:
> [..]
>>> If OSM is taught in the classroom and this results in lots of errors,
>>> then either OSM was not the right subject to teach, or was not taught
>>> well ;)
>>
>> Letting utter novices loose on live data strikes me as crazy, they will make dumb mistakes that even a GOOD instructor could easily miss, what would it take to provide a 'dummy' server that could be readily be downloaded and installed at the training site, perhaps along the lines of a 'LiveCD'.
>
> That's an interesting thought, but part of the excitement of
> contributing to OSM is the instant gratification of seeing your own
> improvements on the map and being able to share your knowledge with
> the world right away. Having new contributors make their first
> contributions in a sandbox environment takes away a lot of that
> excitement. Moreover, I think it's important for novices to feel the
> responsibility and power of
> editing a live database, something they will only be able to
> appreciate if they actually do it.
>
> Sure, they will make mistakes at first. Everyone does. It's no big
> deal, as long as people are willing to improve and learn. I for one am
> glad that not many of my early 2007 edits are still around.


I have suggested to franz that he setup his own api server for a small
section of town, to invite noobs from the town to work on that, I
would help him review and merge the data when it is done. they should
just work on making a perfect map of a small section of jakarta, and
when that is finished, then we can look into merging that into osm.
I think it would be ok and the work would be doable. Even if he
published an OSM file at the end with a section of town and asked it
to be reviewed and imported. as long as he has a copyright assignment
paper from the contributors that would work. it would be better than
letting all these noobs loose on the live server to make a mess.

mike