[OSM-talk] Harming the community

[mick]

On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:56:01 -0500
Serge Wroclawski <emacsen at gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems every six months or so, a new set of license troll
> "discussions" come up.
> 
> It's the same people. I can name names if necessary, but I think the
> old timers mostly know who the trolls are by now.
> 
> They suck energy from the lists, they suck energy from the projects.
> They criticize the process, they say moving forward is "harming the
> community". They bitch, they moan, they are "helpful", they throw up
> procedural roadblocks.
> 
> And they get old timers involved, and newbies confused/scared, and I'm
> sick of it.
> 
> 
> OSMF- stop being wimps and start standing up for the project. Stop
> hiding behind procedure, and start working toward cohesion and
> momentum. Free discussion is important, but allowing a community to do
> its work is also important, and when the same trolls infect the lists
> over and over, it's time to say no, and to confront their nonsense
> with clear facts, clear communication, and clear action.
> 
> I suggest that, for the immediate situation, a few things happen:
> 
> 1. The LWG appoint a single person to speak for the LWG/OSMF on this
> matter. That one person can make definitive statements, and not be
> stiffled with committee talk.
> 
> 2. The LWG put out clear guidelines on what's happening, when, and
> how. What data will be removed, how we can identify it, when it's
> going away, and how we can fix it.
> 
> 3. The list moderators need to step up and do their jobs. This
> nonsense is disruptive and it needs to end. Discussion is fine, but
> inflammatory language and lies are not.
> 
> 
> I'm feeling quite frustrated. I care about this project and I'm
> needing to be able to be productive, and this stuff seriously detracts
> from being able to accomplish that.
> 
> - Serge

Well said

mick