[OSM-talk] Use of official names Re: shortened names

Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 28 12:27:35 BST 2011


Colin Smale wrote:
> 
> On 28/07/2011 09:33, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>> So what's the correct name of the bridge? Does the highway department set
>> the standard, and so both saints are abbreviated? Or do we go with what
>> the
>> cities call themselves and use Saint Paul-East St. Paul Bridge?
>>
> I wonder what the process is to decide the name of a new road. Looking 
> at it from this angle might clarify where the "official name" is 
> registered. If some contractor misspells the name on a sign, or is asked 
> to abbreviate certain words, that won't change the official name.
> 
Here (Florida) most roads are named by subdivision plats. Names can be
changed and unplatted streets can be named by government resolution. Here's
an example:
http://orlapp1.ci.orlando.fl.us/asv/paperlessagenda.nsf/6acecff5f30ecb0d85256bd0005abae0/9db36bf38b912fbc852575a10046cc0d/$FILE/SNC2009-00001%20mission%20rd%20st%20name%20chg.pdf
The official name here appears to have been changed from "S. Mission Rd." to
"S. Pres. Barack Obama Pkwy.".


Colin Smale wrote:
> 
> It sounds like there are three types of street name:
> 1) Official, as decided by the Powers That Be
> 2) Signed, as displayed on the signs
> 3) Colloquial, as people habitually use
> 
> So which one do we put in "name=*", and what do we do with the others?
> 
> I suggest putting 2) in "name=" as it is a) most useful and b) most 
> easily verifiable "on the ground". For 1) we can use "official_name" and 
> for 3) we can use "alt_name" or "loc_name" (all in the wiki at [1]). 
> Then the renderers (and other consumers of OSM data) can choose cleanly 
> which name to use.
> 

Going by the signs doesn't work when signs disagree. At one intersection
here, Parkway is spelled out in full and abbreviated three ways (Pkwy, Pky,
Py). Which one would you use?

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