[OSM-talk] Navigon to Sell OpenStreetMap POIs Packages for PNDs

[andrzej zaborowski]

Hi,

On 14 June 2011 15:29, Jonas Krückel <jonasxk en googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 14.06.2011 um 14:29 schrieb davespod:
>
> http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/Navigon-Add-22-Million-POIs-To-SatNav-Devices--1060.php
>
> An interesting development. If I understand things correctly (and assuming
> CC-by-SA holds water for data), they can charge for these derived data sets,
> but they would still have to be CC-by-SA, and so anyone who bought one could
> then redistribute without charge. Does that sound right?
>
> A note on this one for everyone not reading talk-de [1]:
> Ulf Möller, who has been a member of the OSMF Board and is part of the LWG,
> had been given a test device by Navigon in order to check for correct
> attribution.
> He was also asked by Navigon to distribute a text file [2] to the community
> which contains some basic information about how Navigon processes the data,
> links to download the packages for free (CC-BY-SA compliance AFAIK) and also
> instructions on how to install these files on a device.
>
> P.S. If they have de-duplicated these, as they claim, perhaps it is worth
> getting our hands on as a resource for cleaning up the database...
>
>
> Well, it would be nice and we could certainly ask for it, but with CC-BY-SA
> only the end product falls under the license and not the processed data in
> between.

Are you sure?  If we manage to extract the processed data, it'll be
derived from either the end product or OSM or both, so it needs to be
CC-By-SA too and there's no way around it.

> Once we move on to ODbL however, this will change and we will get
> the much more interesting 'raw' data.

Which we can't re-use in OSM however.

Someone on IRC mentioned that the situation would be clearer under
ODbL, too, but I think this is a false positive.  Additionally with
ODbL Navigon may take the position that they made a produced work.

Cheers