[OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

[ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen]

>But I do feel slightly uncomfortable that my edits, which I've now agreed should be licensed under ODbL, can currently be used by fosm to build a >CC-by-SA competitor project which aims to divide our community.


The community has always been clear that the continuation of OSM
with with a new ODBL is a legal way of forking the project.
Just as legal as continuing OSM with CC-BY-SA. After all
planet dumps have been made available for that, as well as diffs. That
is also a majority decision. 

The rotten thing here is that the ODBL fork has hijacked the domain name and
servers, because of .... mainly because a majority let them do it.

So I feel it very unfair to call the continuation of OSM under CC-BY_SA, 
in additon of being obliged to seek new resources (servers ,domain name and community)
are called a competitor with the aim of dividing the community.

That is an odd way of saying the the majority is always right, and if wrong
they are right anyway !  And history has shown us and shows us every day
again where that opinon can lead to.




Regards,

Ing.  Gert Gremmen, BSc



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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Graham Stewart (GrahamS) [mailto:graham at dalmuti.net] 
Verzonden: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:20 PM
Aan: talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.


Frederik Ramm wrote:
> 
> Legal subtleties are best discussed on legal-talk. If you care to make 
> your suggestion there, I'd be willing to point out why it doesn't work ;)
> 

Fair enough Frederik, if it's a legal subtlety then I probably don't want to
know! :)

But I do feel slightly uncomfortable that my edits, which I've now agreed
should be licensed under ODbL, can currently be used by fosm to build a
CC-by-SA competitor project which aims to divide our community.

80n is correct when he said:

80n wrote:
> 
> From here on in, OSM loses ground against fosm.org.  The mass deletions in
> OSM (if they ever happen) will put OSM further behind.
> 

But only because fosm can currently stay in sync with OSM and still claim
CC-by-SA on updates that are made under the new CTs by contributors that
agree with the move to ODbL.

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