[OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap
John F. Eldredge
john at jfeldredge.com
Sat Oct 8 14:55:45 BST 2011
"ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" <g.gremmen at cetest.nl> wrote:
> I am a user of your product, and I think you made a nice
> product. I also think that now your product is mature (250000+),
> it's time for you to supply your own tiles to your users.
> Not only would that allow a better service to us, but also
> makes it possible for us to download all zoom levels
> and to create a better map, as you may render more
> then one view on the world. (cycles, walking, skiing hills etc)
>
> OSM provides free map data but:
> Free data is one, but free tile access is something else.
>
> The download feature of openmaps is a paid extension to
> openmaps.
> With the money it earns it may be easy to setup
> your own servers...
>
> A bit of negotiations with the community might even
> lead to mutual load sharing, a win-win for all of us.
>
>
>
> (Also Openmaps is not an editor, but merely a map viewer.
> For us to use it as an editor an additional fee
> needs to be paid. I think that is strange.)
>
>
>
>
> Gert Gremmen
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
> Before printing, think about the environment.
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Zsombor Szabó [mailto:zsombor at gmail.com]
> Verzonden: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:40 PM
> Aan: OSM Talk
> Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap
>
> Dear OSMers,
>
> we, the developers of OpenMaps, wrote a blog post about OpenMaps
> getting blocked by OpenStreetMap Mapnik tile servers:
> http://blog.izeize.com/2011/10/openmaps-app-blocked-by-openstreetmap.html
>
> For convenience I pasted the whole text of the blog post below:
>
> Earlier this week it came to my attention that OpenMaps' access was
> blocked to the OpenStreetMap "Mapnik" tile servers.
>
> We suspect that the reason why it was blocked is a tool named the
> Download tool. The Download tool enables users to download an area of
> a map from a given map tile server, even custom ones. Users were using
> this tool to download map tiles from the OpenStreetMap "Mapnik" tile
> servers and with this behavior they were violating the tile usage
> policy of OpenStreetMap.
>
> We are very sorry for causing such a problem for the OpenStreetMap
> project. To our defense, the tile usage policy wasn't available when
> we first introduced the Download tool in OpenMaps.
>
> Today we submitted an updated version (v4.5.4) of OpenMaps to the App
> Store and are waiting for approval from Apple. The following
> modifications were made to the app:
> - Download tool is still present with a clear discouraging message
> that it should not be used in abusive behavior.
> - Maximum of 2 download threads.
> - Download disabled for 17, 18 and 19 zoom levels.
> - User agent of non-bulk downloading of map tiles was changed to
> "Op3nMaps(Not.Bulk.Download)/x CFNetwork/x Darwin/x" while the user
> agent for bulk downloading remains unmodified (OpenMaps/x CFNetwork/x
> Darwin/x).
>
> This way browsing and bulk downloading users can clearly be identified
> on the server side and throttled or banned if necessary.
>
> This is our short term solution for the problem, but the long term
> solution is clearly a vector based renderer. I previously alluded that
> it is coming on my twitter profile.
>
> About OpenMaps:
> OpenMaps is a powerful iOS app based on maps and web services around
> OpenStreetMap. To date it was downloaded more than 250.000 times and
> as of 2011.09.07 it is the 7th most popular OSM editor.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Zsombor Szabo
> IZE, Ltd.
> http://izeize.com
>
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There are multiple sites that render map tiles based upon the OpenStreetMap database. Since these different renderers serve different purposes, they don't all render the same subset of data. Having a single official set of tiles, rather than different sets for different purposes, would reduce the usefulness of the data.
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John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
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