[OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

[Matthias Meißer]

Am 31.10.2011 11:29, schrieb Janko Mihelić:
> The question is, can you run your own tile server for less money than
> the Google's payment model. If you can, OSM is for you. If you can't,
> google maps is still ok.
Well I don't want get this to political but whats wrong when pointing 
people to MapQuest/Cloudmade? They offer tilehosting for free.
And yes you are right, if you want to setup your own service (cause you 
aren't that small and already spend money in own servers) you can use a 
own instance of our rendering stack. Sounds like you get an option, that 
you never had before, right?

Matthias
>
> Janko
>
> 2011/10/31 Matthias Meißer <digi_c at arcor.de <mailto:digi_c at arcor.de>>
>
>     Yes I guess this trend will come and I realy want to slow down your
>     action Stefan :)
>
>     But on the other side we had problems with servers last weeks, so
>     why not pointing to the Tile usage policy in the same way? To me the
>     "OSM is a free project, but the server ressources are not" is quiet
>     easy to understand for everyone and this might prevent new devs who
>     would change over to OSM (to fast), from killing the servers. We
>     already had the case, that a few single Apps alone blocked the tile
>     queue and the wiki and of course this situation is bad for the Apps
>     as well.
>
>     But this is just my personal idea. Anyway its always good to promote
>     OSM :)
>
>     bye
>     Matthias
>
>     Am 31.10.2011 <tel:31.10.2011> 01:06, schrieb Stefan Keller:
>
>         Hi
>
>
>         I was alerted by a large national search company telling me that
>         they
>         are using G* Maps but now they are glad to know that there
>         exists OSM
>         as an alternative (to what has tbd.).
>
>         And there are also blogs saying that smaller developers will be hit
>         too, especially when their innovative website becomes more
>         well-known:
>         See this article:
>         http://www.netmagazine.com/__news/devs-respond-google-maps-__api-limits-111510
>         <http://www.netmagazine.com/news/devs-respond-google-maps-api-limits-111510>
>
>         So my thought was too to make a press release - but without
>         bashing G*
>         and without referring to the restrictions (see e.g. here
>         http://code.google.com/intl/__uk-UK/apis/maps/faq.html#tos___pricing
>         <http://code.google.com/intl/uk-UK/apis/maps/faq.html#tos_pricing>
>         ). I
>         would rather remind that OSM is "free" (under the license terms) and
>         that the OSM data and tools are there to be used in own websites.
>
>         Yours, S.
>
>         Am 30. Oktober 2011 19:11 schrieb Matthias
>         Meißer<digi_c at arcor.de <mailto:digi_c at arcor.de>>:
>
>             As I pointed out in my blog post, I would be happy for
>             everbody that takes a
>             review in the data and it's processing ;)
>
>             But yes I understand thats not good stuff for a press
>             relase. But on the
>             other hand it makes no sense to me to enforce a PR just for
>             glee. As I noted
>             in some Google article it's not that clear how consumers are
>             affected, cause
>             do they make use of the API?
>
>             Matthias
>
>             Am 30.10.2011 14:00, schrieb Phil Endecott:
>
>
>                 Matthias Mei?er wrote:
>
>
>                     Well, another aspect for a press release might be,
>                     that OSM has
>                     limited resources as well. Maybe this visualisation
>                     and analysis of
>                     the tile usage by Apps would be a good starting point:
>                     http://www.openstreetmap.org/__user/!i!/diary/15190
>                     <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%21i%21/diary/15190>
>
>
>                 Friends, please don't do anything at all, let alone a
>                 press release,
>                 based on Matthias' data. It might not be as reliable as
>                 he hoped.
>
>
>                 Regards, Phil.
>
>
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