[OSM-talk] How I got here - was Geocaching.com moved to OSM (partly)

Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Thu Jan 19 11:47:10 GMT 2012


You see? Again the multi-layer and merging-data problem...
I'm pretty sure, that problem is one of the most important problems to 
solve in or around osm.

A few years ago I thought about writing an application to manage a 
graveyard.
As my father had to manage one (who is in which grave? in which "layer" 
of the grave? when buried? where is the grave? is it grass only or with 
other plants? what about the state of the grave stone? and so on).

That time I didn't know about osm, but if I would try that again, I 
would like to combine that application with osm (while the application 
would have to store much more data that does not belong to osm, as it's 
concerned with privacy issues (who is responsible for the grave, how to 
contact him/her? how it is payed for it....)

But we have to solve the concurrency-source-problem first, I fear.

regards
Peter

Am 19.01.2012 12:20, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> 2012/1/19 Nick Hocking<nick.hocking at gmail.com>:
>> mick Wrote
>>
>> "I was pointed here by someone on the Devon list at the rootsweb genealogy"
>>
>>
>> Hi mick
>>
>> When I map a country town I am always on the lookout for any cemetery.
>> I find some very obscure ones and always put them on the map.
>>
>> What are your feelings about putting individual gravestone info into
>> OSM such as the persons name and maybe date and grave location
>> (row, number ???).  It would be good for searching and to get the
>> same sat nav, that got you to the cemetry, to walk you to the grave
>> itself.
>>
>> Does this data belong in OSM or should it be a seperate layer
>> looked after by Genealogists somewhere else.
>
> There is some similar data of this kind already in OSM:
>
> - in 2008 some mappers in Berlin started mapping the graves of famous
> people: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Berlin/OSM_meets_Six_Feet_Under
> (in German)
> - there are some tags (e.g. tomb=war_grave) to map specific types of graves
>
> but as far as I know there is not yet anybody mapping "ordinary"
> graves (i.e. of people that are neither famous nor did they die in an
> extraordinary way). One problem I'd see around here is that this kind
> of data is not very stable (usually the dead remain only for 20 years
> in their graves, not for eternity, but this depends on the religion
> and local culture).
>
> Keeping this data in a separate layer is suboptimal: e.g. you will
> have tombs in OSM and the graves in them in another layer, now if
> someone moves the tombs (to improve the position) they would move the
> dead out of their tombs. Very bad for your karma...
>
> cheers,
> Martin
>
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