[OSM-talk] [SPAM]Re: OSM cycle map - ?excessive focus on long-distance routes

[Frank Steggink]

As a local I can confirm that those routes are signed, or at least 
partially. IIRC they are nothing more than small white signs with black 
letters with the direction you're heading. I strongly doubt if these 
signs are put along the entire route. I don't recall them at all places, 
just at a few locations. Most locals would already know which route 
suites them the best. (And no, they're definitely not taking the 
touristic ones ;) )

The local government is promoting those routes for bike traffic which 
has to cross the city from/to the suburbs and/or neighboring towns (like 
Houten, Nieuwegein, etc.). They're investing in infrastructure, proper 
lighting (for safety reasons), etc. However, so far it hasn't come up in 
my mind to tag those routes. They're not mandatory, and there is nothing 
particular to the signs (as opposed to the 'knooppuntenroutes', the 
routes with the numbered points).

Anyways, the map isn't really accurate, but from what I can tell from 
the route Lunetten/Houten - Smakkelaarsveld, I would follow a different 
road along the last part, because it bypasses many traffic lights which 
are on the Catharijnesingel [1] (most of them are not in OSM...). By the 
way, another section of the route has been closed since extra railway 
tracks are being constructed. [2]

Regards,

Frank

[1] http://osm.org/go/0E6JD67ym-?m
[2] http://osm.org/go/0E6Ifk~Et--?m

On 9-5-2012 16:01, Richard Mann wrote:
> You'd have to ask the City of Utrecht whether their "main cycle 
> routes" are signed. If they've officially identified a particular set 
> of routes, that would seem to be fairly clear-cut. See their city 
> website: 
> http://www.utrecht.nl/images/dso/infraprojecten/fiets/fietsroutes.html
> Richard
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Richard Fairhurst 
> <richard at systemed.net <mailto:richard at systemed.net>> wrote:
>
>     Richard Mann wrote:
>     > My point is that tagging should allow both types of routes to be
>     > recorded
>
>     We tag what's on the ground, whether it's route signage,
>     cycle-specific
>     infrastructure, or a giant woolly mammoth (http://url.ie/f9ts).
>
>     Are you suggesting a deviation from that?
>
>     cheers
>     Richard
>
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