[OSM-talk] Cycleways and Access tags: Left, Right, Forward, Backward?

Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com
Fri May 18 12:12:34 BST 2012


I don't know when bicycle:backward=yes appeared - I've always used
oneway:bicycle=no
(and taginfo puts it as 131 to 4831 uses, so I'm not the only one)

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:59 AM, <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com> wrote:

> It has been pointed out that some of these may be due to one-way roads
> (and as there are more countries that drive on the right, this would cause
> a slight bias), however in these cases the :right suffix is not always
> needed.
>
> I can have a look for incorrect examples, but irrespective of whether I
> find any, I believe that the wiki page needs updating to better explain
> right/left. I am happy to have a go at doing this however as the lane
> enthusiasts and the 'access' page uses forward / backward instead I
> wondered whether there was any intention or hope to switch at some point in
> the future to bring consistency.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
> p.s. I'm not saying we should change, just wanted to open a discussion to
> allow others to voice their opinion before I add more details to the wiki
> page. :-)
>
>
>
> On , Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM,  rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My concern with right / left is that some may think "ok we drive on the
> >
> > > right side of the road so it must be cycleway:right" (similarly left
> for
> >
> > > countries such as the UK that drive on the left side of the road). A
> quick
> >
> > > look on TagInfo reveals:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > cycleway:right=* - 9190 occurrences
> >
> > > cycleway:left=* - 4329 occurrences
> >
> > >
> >
> > > A way has a 50/50% chance of being drawn in either direction so (unless
> >
> > > people are reversing ways as they prefer right to left) then you would
> >
> > > expect the split to be closer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so, you have a hypothesis that people are using the tag incorrectly.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Could you find some examples to see if this true
> >
> > 2) What do you think should be done, if so?
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
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