[OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu Oct 18 12:10:36 BST 2012


2012/10/18 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:
> The French are integrating the data of the cadastre, their surveys, their
> local knowledge and Bing aerial images to improve Openstreetmap.org as a
> whole. They are not doing a bulk import that needs to be sorted out later
> on.
> The local community's opinion should be more important in this matter, than
> the opinion of one person in the UK and the DWG should wield its power to
> block actual acts of vandalism, instead of annoying good contributors.


please also see the other side's motivation: there is good reason not
to put meta data into the main database but on a changeset level,
still your local guidelines apparently lead to filling the global
database up with source-tags:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values
(There are roughly spoken more than 7 times cadastre source-tags than
there are for example source=bing tags)

There is generally a problem with entering data for which you are not
the full rights holder and which is not in the PD. The data you
import/merge has strings attached (requires attribution which may not
be removed) which might lead to removal of the data in the case the
active contributors choose to switch to a more open license (e.g.
cc0), so it is very important that this data is easily identificable.

The guidelines for imports are clear (use distinct account, make an
information page in the wiki). IMHO this is not a very complicated
requirement, but I agree it could - on a technical level - be made
easier to manage multiple accounts. Maybe someone of the French
community (or someone else) has the time and expertise to code an
extension for JOSM which would allow to change between multiple
accounts on the fly or assign the edits of the same session in the
editor to different accounts while editing and on upload this would
automatically create several changesets (one for each account)? Maybe
on the server side we could allow several OSM accounts for the same
email adress (not sure if this is already the case, but from former
discussions I remember that this was one of the concerns)?

Cheers,
Martin



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