[OSM-talk] Import guidelines & OSMF/DWG governance

[Marc Sibert]

Le 18/09/2012 23:24, Lester Caine a écrit :
> Marc Sibert wrote:
>> Again, I'm not a vandal : I do not detroy any work (and nobody 
>> complains about
>> that), I just "update" data (replace), that is not the point why my 
>> account was
>> blocked !
>>
>> So, what have you done in my case ?
>
> It is your opinion that you have not destroyed any work, but this is 
> one of the major complaints about this type of import process. The 
> EXISTING data has been destroyed, and that is historic data that is 
> now lost. When a new import comes out will you again destroy this one 
> and upload the new one? If some one has gone through and added all the 
> missing address and other details how will you link that to the new 
> import? Are you sure that no one has added some extra data which has 
> been delete this time?
>
I respond the point in my previous message.

> What is missing with this type of import is any mechanism to link to 
> the past history and THAT is my complaint and one of the points of the 
> guide line - you have destroyed data - just as you have with other 
> edits you have done where you have deleted objects with several years 
> history and replaced them with a new object.
>
I remember a few months before, I use to destroy way and *replace* them 
with brand new nodes & data in order to pass thru the "redaction bot", 
and you are saying history is important ? LOLOLOLOLOL !
> What we need in order to PROPERLY import this data is a unique ID for 
> each element in the source data that is maintained by the originator 
> of the data, so that when an 'update' arrives, the new data can be 
> correctly matched to that already contained in the OSM database.
Uniq ID ? LOLOLOL again ! Tell me what appends when I cut a way in 2 
peaces : a part keep the old ID and the other get a new one without 
*any* link with the previous one. In fact, do you ever contribute ? Do 
you realy know how OSM (and primary keys) works ? (just kidding). By the 
way history is still in diff files.

All your arguments are sensless !

...
> So with regards the 'import guidelines' do you still think you have 
> complied with them? In some peoples eyes you probably have, but in 
> others some useful historic data has been lost. I'm in the second camp 
> ...
>
Please explain me what the guidelines are protecting from : in *my* (and 
no other) case I have still no answer. So I still do not consider 
"guidelines".
"Same player, try again..."

Regards,

-- 
Marc Sibert
mailto:marc at sibert.fr