[OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

[Sylvain Maillard]

looking at some facts, there are:
- 13002 followers on twitter
- 4311 likes on facebook page (to be compared at the >200 000 on the google
maps page)
- ? suscribers on talk@
=> on the 1 millions osm user, I'm quite sure (but have no facts) that a
lot of people have a facebook account but didn't know about the osm page !

My point of view is that social networks are perhaps not the best regarding
privacy,.. but there are a great opportunity to communicate about OSM.
I think we can surely do a better job to communicate around the osm
ecosystem, even without social networks, by putting more informations in
the main page and not only the map: new user will also know that osm i more
than just a free (costless) map to display ...


Sylvain



2013/1/9 colliar <colliar4ever at aol.com>

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> On 09/01/13 15:18, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> > On 08.01.2013 22:31, Rovastar wrote:
> >> Nearly every site now has twitter, facebook, google plus, youtube
> >> channel, etc links. We have these social media outlets lets tell people
> >> about them.
> > [...]
> >> I cannot see any harm in this it would take up very little screen real
> >> estate and I think look a more professional cohesive community.
> >
> > In my opinion, the most important reason to avoid implementing this is
> not
> >  the screen space cost, but that it would be off-putting to those in our
> > community who feel that centralized platforms like Facebook are
> > incompatible with the spirit of an open, diverse and neutral web.
> >
> > Of course that is an ideological point of view, and many even in the OSM
> > community no doubt do not share it. However, I would be wary to brush
> aside
> > ideology completely: We rely on very similar ideals when we compare
> > ourselves to competitors. Look at Google Map Maker - just like Facebook,
> it
> > relies on users' contributions and offers certain free services in
> return,
> > but is ultimately limited in its potential to whatever fits the agenda of
> > its owner.
> >
> > I don't mind if people use their favourite social networks to advocate
> OSM.
> > However, a front page placement is more than that. It would imply an
> > endorsement of that service to an extent (until now, the only companies
> > mentioned on the front page are ones which directly support the OSM
> > community). It would also give special treatment to that small number of
> > commercial services and neglect all the alternatives.
> >
> > Personally, I want to help OSM to overcome Google Map's dominance for
> > pretty much the same reasons why I reject Facebook. So, please, do not
> > advertise Facebook, Google Plus, or any similar networks on the OSM front
> > page.
>
> +1
>
> I might understand why osm should have its presence on these medias but
> only
> to advertise OSM and point out the huge disadvantages and problems of these
> medias.
>
> I even dislike using them instead of an "open" or "own" platform cause you
> are
> already following their rules and strategy.
>
> If someone likes to make advertisement for free for these companies he/she
> can
> do so but OSM is not the right place for it and especially not the front
> page.
>
> I would have quite some problems to explain this to folks I did start to
> convince about OSM or at least showed an alternative.
>
> Somehow puzzled to have to discuss about that on this place.
>
> cu
> colliar
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