[OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

[Kai Krueger]

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote
> Am 09.01.2013 um 15:18 schrieb Tobias Knerr <

> osm@

> >:
>> 
>> Of course that is an ideological point of view ... However, I would be
>> wary to brush
>> aside ideology completely...
>> I don't mind if people use their favourite social networks to advocate
>> OSM. However, a front page placement is more than that. 
> 
> 
> +1, no endorsement of closed silo services on the main page.

Imho this is a rather different kettle of fish, but given the current
discussion on how far to "support" the closed silo of facebook and its
ideology, I thought I'd mention it here never the less.

I am hoping to extend the current login page to also support "login with
Facebook" and "login with your Microsoft account" as can be tested on the
following demonstration page (
http://apmon.dev.openstreetmap.org/facebook-login/ ).  This would also
include a "Facebook logo" on the login page.

Unlike the "logon with google" which has been an option on osm.org for a
while now, other commonly used federated logins, like e.g. Facebook, have so
far not been supported, as they don't use OpenID which is the appropriate
open standard for this. Instead Facebook and MS accounts use oauth 2, which
requires to register the page with them first and a small amount of custom
code  for each supported identity provider.

Never-the-less, I don't think this is a real issue with regards to not
supporting a closed silo. For one, the "login with Facebook" is obviously
entirely voluntary and I don't see anything in the design of the login page
that would suggest this is a requirement (or even the preferred method) for
using OSM. Secondly, no (privacy) information is leaked to Facebook or any
other third party unless you explicitly decide to use that identity provider
(in which case it is imho your responsibility to trust it and consider the
privacy implications). And finally I don't see it as OSMF "endorsing" a
closed silo, as it equally supports the entirely open (and decentralised /
user centric)  OpenID protocol.

Therefore, despite also having some ideological issues with closed social
networks like Facebook, I don't want to neglect the reality of 900 million
Facebook accounts and the possibility to make life easier for OSM mappers /
users if they so choose.

Kai



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