[OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

Johan C osmned at gmail.com
Fri Jul 12 19:44:42 UTC 2013


This thread is very vibrant. To add to that: it's my belief that a first
time user will need a different experience from osm.org than you and me who
are experienced OSM'ers and yes, it is possible to have clickable POI's
with photo's:
http://geschichtskarten.openstreetmap.de/historische_objekte/?zoom=13&lat=52.53336&lon=13.42035&layers=B0000FT

And now to the proof of the pudding: what's next, after this Wiki
discussion gradually fades out.
Here's my proposal for a process: let's get a group of dedicated community
members together who want to take the time (a year or so) to assist in
creating the desired design of the site, the technical infrastructure
needed (in the cloud or not?) etcetera and to keep what very good people
built into osm.org what is is now (compliments for them!): a speedy, good
looking osm.org website. And let's give that group a name, for instance: '
osm.org project group'. It would definitely need one of the sysadmins, one
of the persons from the Mapnik team, an OSMF member, Gregory Knisely from
Mapquest and Saman Bemel Benrud from Mapbox. Correct me if I'm forgetting
someone. And let's test that design in a sandbox by both first time users
(your mother in law for instance :-) and experienced mappers.Till now in
this thread 30 community members commented. Who has the dedication to join
the osm.org project group?

Cheers, Johan

ps don't miss the presentation 'Refining a vision for OpenStreetMap.org' @
SOTM (Saturday 7 September)


2013/7/12 Kathleen Danielson <kathleen.danielson at gmail.com>

> Hi folks,
>
> This is my quick interjection to give kudos to everyone in this
> conversation for keeping what could have become a hostile or defensive
> thread really constructive and forward looking. As someone who spends a lot
> of time complaining about this mailing list, you've all done an excellent
> job of proving me wrong here, so I stand corrected, and appreciate it! This
> is a really great community :)
>
> This seems like a good time to mention that on the talk-US list we're
> working on planning a Birthday Sprint in August to celebrate OSM's 9th
> birthday[1]. The general idea is for folks with software projects to gather
> their communities (or for folks looking to help to find a project that
> needs them) and take a weekend to write some code! It won't be an in-person
> event, necessarily, but I think there could be a real benefit from more
> eyes than usual being focused on development projects over the course of
> the August 10-11. In addition, we're working on making sure that there are
> tasks queued up for non-developers who want to participate.
>
> Anyway, it sounds like there are a lot of ideas on this thread that are
> already in progress, or are ripe to get started. So I hope that we'll be
> able to include them in the Birthday Sprint!
>
> Cheers,
> Kathleen
>
> [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-July/011355.html
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Simon Poole wrote:
>>
>>> As has been pointed out
>>> before, the competitive landscape has changed a lot with google becoming
>>> the near monopolist at least for online mapping services and maybe we
>>> have to rethink
>>>
>>
>> Cherry picking the quotes ...
>>
>> Google may be the 'first choice' but they are also in many cases simply
>> the worse choice. One of my own use of OSM is to provide location maps for
>> client websites. I make sure that they are on google and google+ but in
>> MANY cases when you zoom in on google all you get is a white area and no
>> indication of how to get to the premises.
>>
>> At the risk of being acused of advertising ... but in this case google
>> also has duff info which we have tried to correct several times over the
>> last year or so!
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?**lat=52.10962&lon=-2.07388&**
>> zoom=18&layers=M<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.10962&lon=-2.07388&zoom=18&layers=M>
>> https://maps.google.co.uk/**maps?q=ohm%27s+mowers&ll=52.**
>> 10966,-2.074407&spn=0.001341,**0.003707&hq=ohm%27s+mowers&**
>> hnear=Broadway,+**Worcestershire,+United+**Kingdom&t=m&z=19<https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=ohm%27s+mowers&ll=52.10966,-2.074407&spn=0.001341,0.003707&hq=ohm%27s+mowers&hnear=Broadway,+Worcestershire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=19>
>>
>> I then add a 'get directions' button to the contact page and take people
>> to a routing engine that actually knows the road a building is on ;)
>>
>> I'm happy to serve up my own tiles if needs be (the new server has been
>> rending the UK since Monday!), but the services available do the job quite
>> nicely at the moment.
>>
>> Education is the key here, and I certainly think that while we NEED a
>> good map server, making openstreetmap.org a link to a good getting
>> started page does make perfect sense. and add map.openstreetmap.org for
>> the map direct and keep wiki.openstreetmap.org as the documentation
>> front page. http://switch2osm.org/ is actually a cleaner front end at
>> the moment?
>>
>>
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