[OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
> It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't live on
> the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.

Yes, I can imagine that to some a "you only have to follow rails-dev" is 
a very hitchhikers-guidesque response.

My impression is this:

1. Lots of people re-iterate the mantra that mailing lists (and "talk" 
in particular) are places where you'll only get flak for all your good 
ideas, and endless "bikeshedding", and whatnot. I think that this is not 
supported by facts.

2. Therefore if you do something you're tempted to ignore the mailing 
lists, as everyone tells you they're the pits of hell.

3. Therefore, people on the mailing lists - even the majority that is 
not troublemakers - feel sidelined, and complain.

Often even *informing* people in advance could help a lot.

I think that the situation would already be much improved if, when 
something of greater importance pops up on rails-dev or elsewhere, 
someone informs the "talk" list about that. For example, in the specific 
case, once TomH had set up the working branch with the new UI, a quick 
note should have gone up on talk: "look here this new design, being 
discussed here in case you want to say something". A couple of people 
might want to say something but the majority will just be pleased to 
have been told about it.

Anyone can do this cross-pollination of the talk list, and maybe we 
should make it a habit.

I'll start with:

Hi everyone, there's an idea to provide a new welcome/"landing" page 
used to send new users to, or maybe those who come to OSM via one of the 
sites using OSM maps. It can be viewed here

http://welcome.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/welcome

and the discussion is here

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/338

Bye
Frederik

PS: If I reply to a message on rails-dev, will it land in the proper 
github ticket discussion? I tried it once a while ago and found that my 
comments were not there, and it seemed that some people were reading via 
rails-dev and got my message while others were reading via github and 
didn't. Has someone successfully used the write portion of the gateway?

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