[OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

colliar colliar4ever at aol.com
Mon Jul 22 14:24:59 UTC 2013


Am 21.07.2013 22:01, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> Hi,
> 
> On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
>> It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't
>> live on
>> the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
> 
> Yes, I can imagine that to some a "you only have to follow rails-dev" is
> a very hitchhikers-guidesque response.
> 
> My impression is this:
> 
> 1. Lots of people re-iterate the mantra that mailing lists (and "talk"
> in particular) are places where you'll only get flak for all your good
> ideas, and endless "bikeshedding", and whatnot. I think that this is not
> supported by facts.
> 
> 2. Therefore if you do something you're tempted to ignore the mailing
> lists, as everyone tells you they're the pits of hell.
> 
> 3. Therefore, people on the mailing lists - even the majority that is
> not troublemakers - feel sidelined, and complain.
> 
> Often even *informing* people in advance could help a lot.
> 
> I think that the situation would already be much improved if, when
> something of greater importance pops up on rails-dev or elsewhere,
> someone informs the "talk" list about that. For example, in the specific
> case, once TomH had set up the working branch with the new UI, a quick
> note should have gone up on talk: "look here this new design, being
> discussed here in case you want to say something". A couple of people
> might want to say something but the majority will just be pleased to
> have been told about it.
> 
> Anyone can do this cross-pollination of the talk list, and maybe we
> should make it a habit.

+1

> I'll start with:
> 
> Hi everyone, there's an idea to provide a new welcome/"landing" page
> used to send new users to, or maybe those who come to OSM via one of the
> sites using OSM maps. It can be viewed here
> 
> http://welcome.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/welcome
> 
> and the discussion is here
> 
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/338

Please, use an own thread for announcements, otherwise they are often
missed.

colliar


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