[OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

[Claus Stadler]

Hi,

Shouldn't OSM use Wikipedia URLs as UUIDs where applicable rather than 
Wikipedia referring to database identifiers? (The answer is a clear 
'yes' from my side.)
In fact there are the (wikipedia, *) tags - but not sure how good the 
quality is - what can be seen on a first glance is, that people mix URLs 
and article names, and also encoding.

Cheers,
Claus

On 05/04/2013 01:34 AM, Jason Remillard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In general is seems like it might be useful to have some kind of
> somewhat permanent URL to an element inside of OSM. However, given
> what exists today shouldn't Wikipedia be using the overpass API for
> referencing OSM?
>
> Thanks
> Jason.
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:
>>> From: andrzej zaborowski [mailto:balrogg at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 2:08 PM
>>> To: Frederik Ramm
>>> Cc: OpenStreetMap
>>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata
>>>
>>>> I am less concerned about the Wikidata side - if they make a bad
>>>> judgement then it is their mess to clean up. I am however concerned
>>>> that if more people simply assume that the status quo is there to stay
>>>> ("IDs are stable enough"), this will put pressure on *us* and limit
>>>> our flexibility in the future.
>>> The OSMF has sent a pretty strong message saying that object IDs are
>>> stable enough to base impactful legal decisions on them.  It will look
>>> silly for them to go back to the stance that IDs aren't stable after
>>> all.
>> There's two sides to ID stability. One is stability during software or data
>> model changes and the other is stability during normal mapping. Frederik's
>> post was concerned more with the former.
>>
>> The latter is more complicated. Because the original message linked to
>> London, it's worth pointing out that a few admin relations did get new IDs
>> in the redaction process for technical reasons and that periodically
>> relations get given new IDs because old large complex relations don't
>> interact well with the /history call.
>>
>>
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