[OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

[Kolossos]

Hello Andreas,
I hope Wikidata part 3 solve the problem with the list, so that an 
object would be one Wikidata entry and can be a member in different 
lists but can also have an own article.

A map with objects in the example article is here:[1]

I have no influence on the way how
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/48434939
links to Wikipedia, I could also only ask an admin.
With a link to index.php it would be easy to solve[2].

An external project with m:n-relations between OSM and WP would have 
it's own problems.

Greetings Tim alias Kolossos

[1]http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/openlayers/kml-on-ol.php?lang=de&uselang=de&title=Liste%20der%20denkmalgesch%C3%BCtzten%20Objekte%20in%20Wien%2FPenzing&zoom=15&lat=48.21428&lon=16.22318&layers=B000000FFTTF

[2]http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?uselang=de&title=Liste_der_denkmalgesch%C3%BCtzten_Objekte_in_Wien/Penzing#objektid-25026

Am 05.05.2013 08:08, schrieb Andreas Labres:
> Tim,
>
> There are problems with WIWOSM that aren't solved at all...
>
> Example: Historic monuments in Austria. They are all covered in Wikipedia, but
> mostly only in Lists. And they do have a distinguishable objectID, but I can't
> really state this in OSM.
>
> For instance:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/207854465 ist such a historic monument
> with objectID 25020.
> It can be found in Wikipedia here:
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_denkmalgesch%C3%BCtzten_Objekte_in_Wien/Penzing#objektid-25020
>
> So I can only state the tag
>     wikipedia:de = Liste der denkmalgeschützten Objekte in
> Wien/Penzing#objektid-25020
>
> This has the effect that the link in OSM doesn't work (because OSM adds a
> userlang parameter behind the anchor reference which I consider a bug of OSM
> [did already report it]).
>
> And also WIWOSM can't reference the distict object. Though it seems to be able
> to reference some of the "Liste_der_denkmalgeschützten_Objekte_in_Wien/Penzing".
> It can't do all because some of the objects do have their own wikipedia
> entrance, for instance Mariarunn church:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/48434703
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfarr-_und_Wallfahrtskirche_Mariabrunn
>
> So what would be necessary is that wikipedia and OSM would agree on some kind of
> generic ID, which could in the case of historic monuments in Austria be some
> /monument/AT/$objectID, e.g.
>
>    /monument/AT/25020, which then would redirect to
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_denkmalgesch%C3%BCtzten_Objekte_in_Wien/Penzing#objektid-25020
>
> whereas
>
>    /monument/AT/24616 could redirect to
>    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfarr-_und_Wallfahrtskirche_Mariabrunn
>
> /al
>