[OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

Stefan Keller sfkeller at gmail.com
Tue May 7 08:22:18 UTC 2013


2013/5/7 Christian Quest <cquest at openstreetmap.fr>:
> Linking to OSM objet ID looks like a bad idea because they are not stable.

Agreed.

> I've proposed something that can be summarized like some generic
> geoURL that could be used to describe something/somewhere in the form
> something at somewhere

Am I understanding you correctly: You propose a kind of geoURL - like
linked data [1] - which is a tag attached to OSM nodes?
That would fulfill most of my criterias except that it does not
indicate that it's a "system property"
GeoHashes have a nice property of being completely independent of a
centralized (or partially centralized) id generator.
But they are not suited to identify object which are overlaying each other.

Yours, Stefan

[1]  http://semanticweb.org/wiki/GeoURL

2013/5/7 Christian Quest <cquest at openstreetmap.fr>:
> Linking to OSM objet ID looks like a bad idea because they are not stable.
>
> We had a recent long talk on talk-fr@ about permanent IDs that could
> help linking external data to OSM, instead of multiplying ref:xxx in
> OSM to link to external data.
>
> I've proposed something that can be summarized like some generic
> geoURL that could be used to describe something/somewhere in the form
> something at somewhere
>
> 'something' could use some hierarchical semantic description, and
> 'somewhere' could use for example geohash.
>
> Example for a bakery nearby my place: saines_saveurs.bakery.shop at u09v8s9fd5mc
>
> These geoURL can be compared with some level of fuzzyness on something
> and/or somewhere by reducing the level of details if necessary
> (exemple: shop at u09v8s9fd5 has less details and can be matched with a
> simple "contain" text search).
>
> They can be translated into whatever query like an overpass-api query
> to actually resolve to the current matching objets in OSM or somewhere
> else as the geoURL are not OSM based in any way.
>
> This mechanism works pretty well for node/polygon based POI, but needs
> to be extended for more linear features (like a street), maybe using
> more than one geohash (one at both ends ?).
>
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