[OSM-talk] "Incorrect speed limit" anonymous notes - who is behind that?

[JB]

Have a look  there: 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/486
If categories are create (and I think they should), I would still add 
private notes/heavy duty work
JB.

Le 10/08/2014 14:10, Matthijs Melissen a écrit :
> I see a lot of comments like this. The underlying problem seems to be
> that it is not clear whether notes are meant for armchair mappers, or
> for surveyors in the field.
>
> I think both types of notes are useful: that way the notes can serve
> as a two-way communication between mappers in the field (for example
> novices who don't know how to edit the map themselves) and armchair
> mappers (who might want to communicate with mappers in the field if
> they are unable to do a field check themselves at that moment).
>
> So the solution might be very simple: make two types of notes, 'desk'
> notes and 'field' notes. The desk notes can be handled by armchair
> mappers. The field notes need a check in the field. Notes created by
> anonymous users should be desk notes by default, and if information is
> missing, the armchair mapper should be able to turn it into a field
> note.
>
> The notes JB refers seem to be field-type notes. I think they are
> useful, and I think it's not helpful if armchair mappers try to close
> all of them without doing a survey.
>
> Anyone think a split in field and desk notes is a good idea?
> Implementation of this should be easy.
>
> -- Matthijs
>
> On 10 August 2014 11:50, JB <jbosm at mailoo.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I think I will reopen the debate here, by asking a simple question: how many
>> of those saying "hey, let this note open, it does no harm to anybody" have
>> actually browsed a country for its opened notes and tried to close them? How
>> many have done the same with openstreetbugs during its last year of life?
>> If you have not, let me tell you, loud and clear: the note database will
>> become unusable soon. When you browse 10 notes and are forced to leave 9
>> open because it does provide no clean information, you just stop trying.
>> That is why during OSB close up, I found so many notes of that kind
>> (continue the path, this is wrong, this does not exist, etc.), that where
>> just not clear enough, or where just too old (the correction had been done
>> without OSB), and most of them where more than 2 years old. And this is why
>> OSB was a mess in the end.
>> I have tried to keep the DB clean in France, am still trying by beeing less
>> narrow-minded, but I just see its quality decreasing every day.
>> So I do not have the exact number, but adding some 10s of little valued
>> notes every week saying "this speed limit may be wrong", some of them added
>> by error (not along a highway) does not seem an improvement to the notes DB
>> to me.
>> JB.
>>
>>
>> Le 10/08/2014 09:42, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :
>>
>>>> Il giorno 09/ago/2014, alle ore 13:56, Norbert Wenzel
>>>> <norbert.wenzel.lists at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> just seeing these notes along a
>>>> motorway every few kilometers. And since these messages don't tell what
>>>> the actual speed limit should be and where it starts it gets really
>>>> annoying to close all these automatically generated notes.
>>>
>>> why are you closing them, if you can't solve the issue? I would keep them
>>> open, if you are not sure that the limit is correct in OSM
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Martin
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