[OSM-talk] Street cabinets

François Lacombe francois.lacombe at telecom-bretagne.eu
Mon Feb 10 00:27:51 UTC 2014


Thank for those details Philip.

How would you call things like that ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:French_gas_delivery_point.jpg

I would looking for the most general term to add it to man_made and then
qualify its nature with a second tag like street_cabinet=*
Thirdly, domain-specific tags would do the trick to eventually give details
about what is hosted in the cabinet

For electricity, we do have power=cable_distribution_cabinet but IMHO it's
definitely to specific.
It would be replaced by man_made=street_cabinet +
street_cabinet=power_distribution (+ operator=* + ref=* if applicable)

And obviously there are traffic control, road lights and all other public
facilities.
In France, we have kind of postal boxes where a postal service employee
deposits letters as for allowing a second person to distribute them later.
https://www.google.fr/maps/preview/@48.127418,-1.640277,3a,19y,262.9h,69.34t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7fn6hRmeXM84TL5rvHcjbg!2e0




*François Lacombe*

francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
http://www.infos-reseaux.com


2014-02-09 23:08 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk>:

> On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 11:42 -0700, Murry McEntire wrote:
> > "Street cabinet" has no meaning in my region. Looking at
> > manufacturer's sites and google images, I do see the term in use in
> > Britain (and some other places) for above ground enclosures with
> > vertical hinged doors. Did you also mean to include above ground
> > enclosures without hinged doors and subsurface enclosures with a
> > surface door? In the U.S. all types are probably most commonly known
> > as utility boxes. Utility box has other meanings, so is ambiguous, but
> > on a map would likely be interpreted correctly
> >
> > Perhaps someone could chime in with the British term covering all the
> > variations?
>
> In the UK a cabinet is used primarily for telecoms cabinets. They are
> quite common, although less common there are gas cabinets. I am not
> aware of water or electricity having them.
>
> In terms of telecoms, the cabinet is where the cable carrying multiple
> subscriber lines is split to provide individual lines to each house.
>
> The word has become more common since the roleout of fibre started. The
> term commonly used is FTTC (Fibre to the cabinet). In terms of telecoms,
> a cabinet does not have to be above ground, it can be accessed with
> removable covers and be below ground.
>
> The term cabinet just mean a small cupboard, it is also commonly used
> for things in the house such as a  'bathroom cabinet'.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, François Lacombe
> > <francois.lacombe at telecom-bretagne.eu> wrote:
> >         Hi,
> >
> >
> >         I was pretty frustrated to don't encounter any common tag to
> >         map street cabinets (trafic lights control, water metering,
> >         phone connection points...) in my city.
> >
> >
> >         I was looking for something like man_made=street_cabinet or
> >         whatever but it's not widely used in the DB.
> >
> >
> >         Should I propose this new value on wiki (with additional tags
> >         to specify what kind of street cabinet, obviously) ?
> >
> >
> >         It would be interesting to document street cabinets since many
> >         of them dangerously deal with pavement accessibility in urban
> >         zones.
> >
> >         This would be done to prevent specific primary keys about a
> >         particular infrastructure to appear on the map.
> >
> >
> >
> >         Thanks in advance for any feedback.
> >
> >         Cheers.
> >
> >
> >         François Lacombe
> >
> >         francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
> >         http://www.infos-reseaux.com
> >
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