[OSM-talk] The biggest violation of OpenStreetMap, ever.

Christian Quest cquest at openstreetmap.fr
Sun Jul 13 20:39:49 UTC 2014

We could use 100% OSM data... In the OSM-FR style, I've replaced
NaturalEarth data with OSM one.

2014-07-13 22:29 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo <moltonel at gmail.com>:

> On 13/07/2014, Christoph Hormann <chris_hormann at gmx.de> wrote:
> > Of course, i was just trying to point out that the standard OSM map does
> > not really give a good example here for others to imitate.  Since the
> > style is open you can of course see where external data is used but
> > this only works as long as it is open.
> Maybe we should point out when we use non-OSM data on osm.org, even if
> that data's license doesn't require attribution. Is there consensus on
> this ? For example, the default "mapnik" style uses data from
> NaturalEarth, to display placenames and boudaries at low zoom I think.
> Note that displaying attribution is the job of the website hosting a
> style, not the job of the style itself.
> That said, I don't feel too pushed to ask other OSM-and-misc data
> users to disclose exactly what mix of data they are using (not that we
> have the legal basis to require it anyway). I imagine we could tweak
> our license to require disclosing which subset of OSM data is being
> used, or even what other datasets it is being mixed with, but that's
> IMHO going too far (and some community members are arguing that the
> current license is already too cumbersome). Ok to encourage, not ok to
> require.
> Lastly, changing the topic, it seems like a bit of a failure that our
> default rendering apparently has to use non-osm data as well. If osm
> is missing placename population figures, or if the worldwide admin
> boundaries are too complicated to use, then we need to fix the
> download options and/or the data itself.
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Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France
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