[OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

[Christian Quest]

2014-07-25 16:20 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse <lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk>:

> On 25/07/2014 15:03, Tom Hughes wrote:
>
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>> How about assuming good intent ...
>>
>
> No-one's suggesting anything other than "people wanting to make the
> standard layer better".  It's "better for what" that's the issue.  I think
> that we ought to be making a map style that better helps people navigate to
> where they want to go.
>
>  ... and making suggestions on how to improve things
>>
>
> A number of people tried that on
>
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/542
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> all feedback pretty much fell on deaf ears.
>


"better for what" is really the question... and the answer is not clear nor
shared.

For a large group, it should show OSM data, a lot of it to have quick
feedback to new contributions as it motivates to go on.
A side goal is to keep incorrectly tagged data not visible.
This means the default map is made primarily for contributors as reminded
by Tom.

Another goal is to make the map useful for a larger audience, to show that
OSM is a cool and useful project.
The rendering in that case puts the priority on map users, and thus should
deal with tagging inconsistencies, improve OSM data with some additional
ones (hillshade, contours, and maybe more).

It seems to me quite difficult to achieve both at the same time as there
are a lot of contradictions.

On the first zoom levels, I think we can put the priority on map users a
little bit more... but as map contributors are more checking their work at
the highest zoom levels we should stick with strict rendering showing
errors. Doing more than that seems difficult or impossible to me.

-- 
Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France
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