[OSM-talk] Moderator statement. Please read before posting

[Hans De Kryger]

Well said Michael, thanks!

Regards,
Hans
On Nov 2, 2014 2:26 AM, "Michael Collinson" <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:

>  Rule 1: Have Fun!
>
> The OSM project depends on folks participating because we want to and
> because, measured in our own terms, we have fun. Whoever we are. Whatever
> we do.
>
> Crowdsourcing depends on as many people as possible being involved and
> engaged. For us, that means women and men, professors and school children,
> folks from literally every country in the world, non-native and native
> English speakers.  All are on this list. Repeat: All are on this list.  We
> welcome you.  We hope you will stay and read ... and may be get into
> posting too.  We are not doing a very good job at that, are we?
>
> So, "Steve's better map" thread. Let's end it.  Rational, courteous
> presentation and discussion of visions is of vital importance, particularly
> on this international list. So, if there are positive things you want to
> pick up as specific new threads, please go ahead ... but be guided by my
> advice below.
>
> Lastly, and I know at least one of the principal players has signed up for
> this. A truly great free MOOC course is starting again tomorrow, 3rd
> November.  If you want to be more effective in forming opinion in
> OpenStreetMap to the point that things actually happen, sign up. At
> minimum, focus on watching the first and last videos in the course.  The
> course is much more general than the title suggests.
>
> *Inspiring Leadership through Emotional Intelligence*
> *https://www.coursera.org/course/lead-ei
> <https://www.coursera.org/course/lead-ei>* (English with English, Chinese
> (Simplified), Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian subtitles).
>
> Mike
>
> *Mike's personal checklist for dealing with "stormy weather"*
>
> I have evolved this after many years on this list and our occasional
> "storms".  I am aiming this at the active Thinkers within our community
> whose input I respect and encourage:
>
> o Think of your whole audience (above) and how to engage them.  Most of
> your audience will never actually reply to you.  [Although every now and
> again you will get a really nice offlist message. They always make my day.]
>
> o Engage positively, the academic buzz-word is "Positive Attractors" ...
> watch the first course videos.  After all, you want to persuade people that
> You Are Right.  That, whether you like it or not, is done emotionally as
> well as logically.
>
> o When there is a "storm". Post less (or may be not at all), not more.  I
> am a native English-speaker and scan-reader (= I can read very quickly),
> but not even I can keep up with the current thread, so I miss interesting
> and thought-provoking things  ... so what about everyone else?  Wait a day,
> structure what you want to say strategically over two or three well placed
> mailings.  (If you follow the totality of *all* my postings to all lists
> over the last two weeks, you will see I am doing exactly this.  And I will
> win eventually!)
>
> o Separate personalities from their arguments. If you want say You Are
> Wrong, it is perfectly possible to say this without direct personal attack.
> Yep, some people will violate this and upset you, just ignore it.
>
> o Separate people's character from their ideas.  ... Oh, I have already
> said that.  :-)
>
> o Lastly. A positive argument, crisis, storm, whatever, has two phases.
> The first can be unpleasant if we are not all 100% emotionally and socially
> very intelligent, which alas we are not.  "Airing dirty washing" (English
> idiom = talking publicly about things that were previously private).
> Violent disagreements.  Healthy, but highly adversarial debate. And so on.
> It is only positive if there is a second closure phase, that involves calm
> reflection, consensus-seeking, taking other people's views into account ...
> and deciding on a course of action that you may not be 100% happy with, but
> a large number of people are ... And we actually do something!  It really
> annoys how little we consciously move on to the that ultra-important phase
> 2!
>
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