[OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

Serge Wroclawski emacsen at gmail.com
Wed Oct 22 20:15:01 UTC 2014

Hi Kate,

Replies in-line.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:

> I'd say the size of the board to me is not necessarily the issue. I do think
> however having a board elected completely just from the OSMF membership
> isn't the best approach. Those elected from OSM contributors (I frequently
> have seen in the past people post people's OSM edits for board elections)
> are not necessarily the best to be on a board. It does not allow the
> flexibility to seek out board members with specialized skills. For example
> most of the board would not claim to be experts in finance, or legal
> matters. I certainly think election from part of the community is not a bad
> thing, but perhaps it isn't the only way.

I think you're connecting board membership with officer positions and
that doesn't need to be connected.

It's possible (and often preferable) to have a board of people who
oversee the officers but are not one of them. That also gives you
flexibility because your board can say "We will nominate so-and-so to
be CEO and so-and-so to be CFO, rather than using terms like
"President" and "Treasurer". It also means the board positions can be
equal, if the board so chooses.

I think that this argument of separation of concerns makes a lot of
sense, I think that board members should be members, but officers may
not need to be.

> Yes, I think that paid staff can certainly help with some of the tasks.
> Financing this is a different issue however. I used to work as paid staff on
> an animal shelter for abused/neglected horses that had many volunteers while
> attending uni. When there was 2 feet of snow in the middle of January it was
> the paid staff usually out feeding the animals and shoveling the manure.
> Volunteers were great for the "fun" tasks such as giving tours, grooming
> horses and giving pony rides at fundraisers. We need to seriously look at
> what the OSM equivalent is of "shoveling manure" and if it is appropriate
> hire people to do it.

Yes, and adding on, some recognition would also be nice, even for volunteers.

Last month I received an extremely nasty, rude email from someone
about actions that I took as part of my DWG duties. That email
insulted me, attacked my sexuality, was vaguely threatening to my
fiancee, etc. and the board was CCed by the original author. None of
the board members or members of management team (who was also CCed)
said a word about it.

This kind of dismissal for our feelings as individuals as we put work
into the project is really disheartening.

- Serge

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