[OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

Russ Nelson nelson at crynwr.com
Thu Aug 20 04:24:56 UTC 2015

moltonel 3x Combo writes:
 > The demolished: prefix only makes sense when there is something left
 > of the former feature, typically rubble (useful for example to alert
 > boattripers of the hazard). When there is nothing left in reality,
 > there should be nothing left in OSM.

Question: should we tag the aqueduct underneath Sunrise Highway
between Aqueduct Raceway and Freeport, NY?

 > Deleting an object is hardly different from editing it as far as
 > osm history is concerned.

Except that deletion excises it from the database that you see when
make an API call. In the case of dismantled railways, that is not
accurate. There *is* a dismantled railway there, and you can tell
because the railway was at point A and at point B, and you can still
see it there, and so you should expect to see it in-between.

Is that a difficult concept to understand? I can point to various
unfinished railroads in NY where part was built (and is in OSM,
because you can see it), and part was never built (which isn't in OSM,
because it was never created). Contrast that with a dismantled
railway, which *is* in OSM, marking the location where it was

I understand that most people don't give a crap about map feature X,
Y, and Z. I get it, really I do. I look at things in OSM myself and
wonder "why the hell did you map that?? Who cares??" And when it comes
to railways, there's a lot of people who don't give a crap. Fine. Go
ahead. Don't care. But I do. So don't delete the things that I (and
other railfans) have added.

Is that *really* too much to ask? Really??

>From whence comes this impulse to destroy other people's work? Cuz it
seems pretty anti-community, anti-mapper, and anti-OSM.

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