[OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

Michał Brzozowski www.haxor at gmail.com
Tue Jan 6 01:25:13 UTC 2015

OSM is not mature IMO:

* People are making discussions that come to no conclusion, this is so
* OSMF does very little work to actually promote OSM and improve its
ecosystem (the only things they do that matter are providing servers
and the SOTM)
* There is very little collaboration between OSM-related software
developers who aren't exactly aware how their actions shape OSM (on
the top of "this would need much coding" attitude of some - so why did
you choose to maintain it?)
* The enforcement of editing standards is very hard. There is always
that user who doesn't bother to ever come by the community forum.
(compare with Wikipedia)
* Software for monitoring OSM changes is still very rudimentary. I
wanna be the f**king NSA. It's incredibly hard to check newbies' work
quickly (eg. you have to load every changeset separately into OSMHV).
* Why do these newbies make so many mistakes? The documentation is a
mess, editor presets are incomplete (whereas they should include all
approved and other widely used features)
* Many "important" people are so defensive there is stagnation instead
of doing. You can only fully evaluate a concept by implementing it.
* Data consumers not exactly make OSM appear professional. It's hard
to come by apps that are nearly as professional as Google Maps or Here
Maps. They also almost never bother to consider country-specific stuff
(like how is an address written, proper handling of abbreviations).


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Rob Nickerson
<rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com> wrote:
> There have been a couple of threads on OpenStreetMap’s mailing list this
> month to do with change. The first, entitled “Request for feedback: new
> building colours in openstreetmap-carto”, is all to do with a change to the
> way the default map style *looks* on openstreetmap.org. The second, “MEP –
> pipelines”, refers to a mechanical edit of the OpenStreetMap *data*. Both
> have been met with some level of resistance – but is this proportionate?
> Head over to
> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2015/01/change-how-mature-is-openstreetmap.html
> and find out what I think :-)
> Your thoughts?
> I’d love to hear your thoughts on this – where is OpenStreetMap in its
> maturity and what level of change is appropriate? Is there anything you
> would like to see changed? And is there anything that must stay the same?
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