[OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

Clifford Snow clifford at snowandsnow.us
Mon Jun 15 23:40:10 UTC 2015


Following this thread makes me wonder how people feel about some of the
issues raised. The link below is quick survey about some of the issues
raised in the thread. Please take a minute or two to respond. If I get
sufficient answers I will publish the results.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TRQYHFP

Clifford


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Sarah Hoffmann <lonvia at denofr.de> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 06:11:50PM +0000, Eros, Emily wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In the midst of the discussion about remote mapping, I couldn¹t help but
> > notice this comment from Sarah:
> >
> > "In my experience, the issue is not that OSM is not welcoming for woman
> > but simply that it is not
> > interesting enough for them."
> >
> > I was surprised to see this and I have to say that I disagree. I find it
> > hard to believe that half the population isn¹t interested in mapping just
> > because they are female; the active engagement of so many women in the
> OSM
> > community certainly suggests otherwise.
>
> This is naturally slippery ground and involves more guessing than solid
> research but let me try to explain a bit more what I meant.
>
> The people who drove OSM in the early stages of development were almost
> exclusively people who mapped for the sake of creating a map. The actual
> use of the data was secondary. The satisfaction of showing that it can
> be done was enough. In fact, the core of OSM contributors (the ones Simon
> was eluding to) is still made up of this group. Without wanting to
> speculate what the reasons are, numbers suggest that this kind of
> motivation mainly appeals to men. Women think differently. They seem more
> interested that the outcome of their labour is put to good use. The
> vast majority of woman in OSM that I know is contributing for a very
> specific purpose: they are professionals in GIS, humanitarian workers,
> researchers or involved in a community project that requires maps.
> Note that it doesn't mean that other women are less skilled or capable.
> It is a simple question on where you invest your time and energy and
> for a majority of woman, creating a map just to have something pretty
> to look at at the screen does not seem sufficient. That's what I meant
> with lack of interest.
>
> As it happens, HOT is a good example on how to do it right in that sense.
> Humanitarian mapping has a very clear goal and the perceived outcome of
> helping other people is obviously worth the time of more women than
> completely mapping a neighbourhood.
>
> A volunteer projects stands and falls with the motivation of its members.
> We've successfully tapped into the source of people that is motivated by
> data
> contribution. To create diversity, it's worth to look more into the source
> of
> people motivated by data use. The tried and true way to do that is
> creating and promoting products for these people.
>
> openchildcaremap.org, any takers?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Sarah
>
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