[OSM-talk] Tagging FOR the renderer

[Simon Poole]

Am 17.05.2015 um 21:36 schrieb Daniel Koć:
> .....
> I also don't think we should let anybody do anything on default map,
> however the general idea is good if we split the problem:
>
> 1. We should have some tools to let people render their own style, no
> matter how crazy. It's possible of course from the technical point of
> view (the data and tools are available and the licenses are open), but
> that is far too complicated for average Joe or Jane. I suspect kind of
> P2P tools would be great, but have no clear ideas about it. The
> positive output would be more people can edit map style and we have
> more experts for working with default style.
There is a reason that maps are protected by copyright, making a
aesthetically  pleasing and useful map (in any respect) is difficult,
and in the digital world it hasn't become any easier. As has been
pointed out there is no lack of tools that make editing a/the style
easy, that just doesn't mean that the actually crafting a good map is easy.

>
> 2. But default map style is still underused. Reluctance to show
> "everything" on merits that it's "impossible", because it should be "a
> mess", probably does not take into account that some features may be
> rendered only on highest zoom levels. For example we have trash cans
> and benches from the latest version of osm-carto and that is not a
> problem, because they are rendered on z>=19!
>

OSM for a long time -had- a "show essentially everything" map style and
there wasn't a lot of protest when it went away, nor did anybody feel
strongly enough about it to invest the effort to keep it around.

>> I know you'd love to have a map that renders everything but you will
>> not get that from OpenStreetMap. As all the data is available there is
>> nothing to stop you setting up your own map renderer and doing as you
>> please (although good luck making it look anything other than a mess).
>
> As I said in 1. - for nerds it's not a problem at all, but for the
> most of OSM mappers (see the long tail thread) that is not the option
> until they have as easy to use tools as iD for editing.
>

Showing your "favourite objects" on a map with uMap is reasonably easy
and in the mean time something fairly popular even with people without a
deep technical background.

Simon

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