[OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?
Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu May 28 10:16:23 UTC 2015
2015-05-28 11:58 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>:
> I think that OSM is a database of local knowledge and culture, not of
> remote knowledge and culture added from afar. Therefore I find it out of
> place for OSM to see that objects like the London node receive a
> constant flow of edits from people whose only link to London is that
> they happen to speak a language in which London has a different name.
>
how did you verify this?
>
> I feel that there are two totally different planes of editing - one is
> what's on the ground in London, mapped by people in London, and the
> other is what name the Martian civilization has chosen to give to
> London, something in which Londoners have no say whatsoever.
>
You are trying to disqualify foreign languages in London by saying they
were "Martian", which they surely aren't, I'll bet on this if you like ;-)
Are you aware that in London there are more than 250 languages spoken?
People living there, not just visitors. Here's a link:
http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/regions/languages.htm
London is special in this context, as it is a truely global city like there
are very few (NYC, Tokyo, Hongkong, maybe a few others like Paris, Dubai,
Moskow (?), ...)
>
> The name:xx tags are, if you will, the only tags for which the local
> mappers are not, and cannot be, the ultimate authority. And that's what
> makes name:xx stick out like a sore thumb for me; in my mind, OSM is
> first and foremost a project that lets the people control their map,
> instead of being told and labelled from afar.
>
please acknowledge that there are minorities in every bigger place that do
actively speak those languages. They ARE local (often).
Cheers,
Martin
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