[OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

[phil at trigpoint.me.uk]

The Ukrainian names were added after the mapper engaged the UK community. 

Phil (trigpoint)

On Fri May 29 11:27:41 2015 GMT+0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
> On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse <lists at atownsend.org.uk> wrote:
> > On 29/05/2015 07:07, Andrew Hain wrote:
> >> Thank you Dave. As a British mapper I am ashamed that some people want
> >> to make the map of my country less useful, and not only to Russian
> >> speakers a long way away.
> >
> > Hang on, where is _anybody_ saying that?  The whole point of the thread
> > is about whether it would be possible to use wikidata to make the map
> > _more_ useful to people who don't speak a particular language, not
> > less.
> 
> The thread opening was indeed about using wikidata translations (which
> would make the map more usefull for all) and perhaps deprecating
> name:CC in OSM as a result (which is much more debatable).
> 
> But then the question came up (By Richard I think ?) of which name:CC
> should be kept for a particular object, and the large number of
> name:ru in the UK (reverted by you and others) was given as an example
> of an unaccepable name:CC. And then some agreed that name:en in
> non-English-speaking coutries should get the same treatment.
> 
> This second paragraph can be seen as making the map less useful (I
> share that POV). It has been argued that the reverts were justified
> because the names were just transliterations and not real names, but I
> think that this was overzealous (it wasn't blind tranliteration, there
> was human skill involved). Even if it was justified, the reversals
> were either sloppy or biased : see
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10021976/history which got
> "name:ru	Лестер" deleted but was allowed to keep "name:uk	Лестер".
> 
> And just to be clear: pushing the decision of whether Лестер is the
> correct russian name of Leicester to wikidata just so that OSM looks
> cleaner is not a solution.
> 
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