[OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 04:04:32PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > sent from a phone
> >
> > > Am 30.09.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de>:
> > >
> > > Given that mapillary stays i can
> > > go back to those photos and put details in the map i am not even
> > > thinking about today
> >
> > besides that your photos will get old like any imagery and not reflect
> the future state for many of these details that you then want to map ;-)
>
> How often do street lights get moved? I guess the ones around my
> house are there for like 30-50years ...
>

For the ones on the MLK Expressway in Tulsa, we're currently averaging
closer to 3-5 years, with a currently pending roadworks project currently
moving lampposts from unprotected positions on the outfields to protected
positions on the center divider or unprotected on the infield median.  This
was most likely done to improve safety for motorists and reduce vandalism.
The former positions were quite close to the pavement and were frequently
downed by wayward vehicles that left the roadway and were prone to metal
theft, including at least one particularly adventurous metal thief
intentionally running down a lamppost, who was caught cutting up the post
to haul away.

But, my region is rather unique in general when it comes to moving stuff
around that's typically static; since I moved here, OklaDOT moved a ~2 mile
segment of I 44 one block south, and moved a ~3 mile segment of Interstate
40 roughly 5 blocks south in Oklahoma City, plus various other more minor
(2-lane) state highways built on broad right of ways have moved from one
side of the right of way to the other.  Though in the 2-lane cases, they're
positioned in the right-of-way as if one half of a dual carriageway, and
when they repaved it, they literally built a new highway where the other
carriageway would go, then removed the original (OK 99 in Osage County and
various segments of OK 33 between OK 48 and OK 8, and particularly between
I 35 and OK 8 are prone to having ruins of the old roadways still partially
intact, though really any two-lane state highway might have this in a few
places).
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