[OSM-talk] European border control points - could use some help mapping

[Blake Girardot]

My experience is that the border control points still exist, they are 
just not always staffed. Traffic still has to pass through them, just 
there may or may not be anyone in the booths.

That is why I don't think it is wrong to mark them as 
barrier=border_control points, they still are border control points, 
just not staffed regularly or the control is very permissive.

Which could change until the place is dismantled and made into something 
else or the border no longer exists.

Also, more and more border control points that were not actively staffed 
are being staffed now due to the refugee crisis.

I guess if you knew they were not being used, even as a funnel for 
traffic, like they were bypassed totally, you could add disused=yes to them.

Cheers
blake





On 10/5/2015 5:13 PM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote:
> Hi, Blake:
>
> Just a question.
>
> Many countries in Europe are part of the Schengen agreement, so there is
> no passport nor id control of any kind at borders. That's why you don't
> find almost any border control nodes between Spain and Portugal or
> France, for example. And those that are mapped should be wrong. Unless
> we want to mark the border controls that are physically there, but
> aren't being used. We should use a different tag for that, or qualify
> the barrier key with a border_control=* new tag, or something similar.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> On 05/10/15 16:53, Blake Girardot wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> OSM could really use more barrier=border_control nodes mapped in Europe
>> both western and eastern. Some countries are pretty good, but some are
>> really missing most if not all of their border crossing points mapped.
>>
>> I am not sure this is something that is really good for armchair mappers
>> like myself so I was really hoping we all might map a few we have
>> personal experience with or knowledge of and see if we can't make a dent
>> in the missing points.
>>
>> Here is a map of how the border_control nodes looked a few days ago in OSM:
>>
>> http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/europe-border-control-points-osm-data_54784#6/48.480/21.160
>>
>>
>> How to map these points (and it is only applicable to single nodes) is
>> here:
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dborder_control
>>
>> I don't think it matters if the barrier is blocking the crossing or not
>> as long as there is a border control point there.
>>
>> Please feel free to forward this to the appropriate country specific
>> email lists if you think that would help us get a more complete map of
>> these points.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake (bgirardot)
>>
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