[OSM-talk] [HOT] Help HOT give 10 communities the resources to map!

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Fri Dec 2 07:53:16 UTC 2016

The background is likely



On 02.12.2016 05:56, Greg Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:47 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
> <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Context please?  I have no idea what you are talking about.
>     One of the problems with giving aid is only about a tenth of the
>     money given is used in the way one would hope.
>     Probably the most pressing problem in Africa at the moment is
>     corruption and in many ways aid doesn't help this particular problem.
>     Mapping in OSM is way to assist without fear that the funds will
>     be diverted.
>     Money given by government agencies stands a little more chance
>     that the aid will get through although there is always the
>     temptation to say it must be shipped on ships from the donor
>     country or must be spent on goods from the donor country.
>     Given that HOT Inc exists in the US and given the USA culture, who
>     else could elect Donald, I think we can expect them to present
>     themselves in this manner.
>     Whilst I would hope that requirements and benefits can be
>     presented I'm not sure that this is in the US tradition.  Given
>     the attention span of the target audience again is it worth the
>     effort to HOT Inc?  Should the message have been restricted to
>     those with a US address?
>     If I'm cynical then the task manager has been very effective.  The
>     training group has identified problem areas and come up with
>     solutions. However HOT is not just HOT Inc there are many people
>     involved in creating maps and the tools used.  Germany is home to
>     many of them.   The OSM wiki contains much wisdom, the page I'm
>     thinking of was put together by a Canadian, well a Québécois which
>     is practically the same.
>     I'd like to see two slots on the most urgent slots in tasks
>     reserved for projects that are run by OSM groups in affected areas
>     to give some sort of recognition to the work they are doing.  If
>     nothing else they're learning project management skills that they
>     can apply elsewhere.
>     In sum HOT Inc probably deserves some support but on transparency
>     I think it could do better.
>     ​Note to Severin I trimmed the posted message down to fit under
>     the 40k character limit for osmf and talk osm then reposted.  The
>     original was posted on the HOT mailing list.
>     Cheerio John
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