[OSM-talk] Working with lat and long simply

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 21:02:34 UTC 2016


So essentially we're saying it's just a matter of documentation.  OSMand
has the capability to display the lat and long of a poi as well and this
can be cut and pasted so it looks as if we can use lat and long as an
address system.

Thanks John

On 10 Sep 2016 4:54 pm, "Sarah Hoffmann" <lonvia at denofr.de> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 04:23:21PM -0400, john whelan wrote:
> > I'm not sure that it is an issue.  If the lat and long can be extracted
> in
> > the way that Nomination can handle it isn't an issue.
> >
> > The bigger issue at the moment is how do you extract the lat and long
> > easily?  Downloading a bit of OSM into JOSM, saving the file as .XML then
> > using something like notepad++ to manually extract the values isn't a
> very
> > practical way for nonmappers to extract the values.
>
> For nodes, the location is displayed on osm.org in a format that is
> nicely copyable and compatible with search.
> For example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1759453982
> displays "Location: 51.5171393, -0.094835"
> Reverse Query: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=51.5171393,-0.
> 094835
> works like a charm.
>
> It's a bit more complicated for areas. Nominatim can help but it's
> not exactly straightforward.
> Example:
>
> 1. go to https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/
> 2. Type "Statue of Liberty"
> 3. Click on the desired result and then 'Details'.
> 4. Copy coordinates at 'Centre Point' line.
>
> Sarah
>
> >
> > Cheerio John
> >
> > On 10 Sep 2016 4:09 pm, "Imre Samu" <pella.samu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >...nominatim ...
> > > >It is currently inconsistent, and that's a problem for those without a
> > > PhD in GIS.
> > >
> > > If you have a suggestions ->  Nominatim issues:
> > > https://github.com/twain47/Nominatim/issues
> > >
> > >
> > > 2016-09-10 21:34 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> The issue isn't that nomination won't handle lat and long it is that
> you
> > >> cannot cut and paste from the xml code.  "lat='45.472891'
> > >> lon='-75.4891002'" doesn't work.  You have to know enough or have the
> > >> instructions to hand to strip off the unwanted lat= and lon=.
> > >>
> > >> It is currently inconsistent, and that's a problem for those without a
> > >> PhD in GIS.  One solution could be a write up in the wiki.
> > >>
> > >> Cheerio John
> > >>
> > >> On 10 September 2016 at 15:27, michael spreng <
> talk at osm.datendelphin.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 10/09/16 17:43, john whelan wrote:
> > >>> > However dig it out of the xml code and drop it into Nomination and
> you
> > >>> > get an error.  lat='45.472891' lon='-75.4891002'
> > >>> What kind of error do you get? Works for me:
> > >>> http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=45.4729+-75.4891
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