[OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

Wed Jan 4 14:03:11 UTC 2017

Thank you. Great tool! It makes an inconsistency visible to people to 
make a final decision.

It is probably like in chess. It is not a man alone, neither a 
supercomputer, but a team of strong human players with usual computers 
who win no-holds-barred championship.

On 04.01.2017 13:22, Imre Samu wrote:
> >..  this coordinates correction ...  Before this correction it had 
> wrong coordinates placing it erroneously on absolutely another 
> mountain. ...
>
> As I see there is a tool for detect distance differences :
>
>     *OpenStreetMap - Wikidata Validator*
>     Each circle is an OpenStreetMap feature with a Wikidata tag.
>     Circle size and color are based on the distance in kilometers
>     between OpenStreetMap feature and Wikidata coordinates.
>     Large red circles mean the distance is greater than 10 kilometers,
>     which indicates a higher error rate.
>
>
> map: https://osmlab.github.io/wikidata-osm
> code: https://github.com/osmlab/wikidata-osm  ( first commit:  Nov 25, 
> 2016 )
> issues: https://github.com/osmlab/wikidata-osm/issues
>
>
>
> 2017-01-04 11:21 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev 
> <oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch <mailto:oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch>>:
>
>     Certainly a tool to check and correct obviously broken or
>     duplicate wikipedia=*, wikimedia_commons=*, wikidata=* links from
>     the OSM map would be very useful.
>
>     However, I've met inconsistencies which could be noticed only by a
>     knowledgeable human on the ground. For example, this coordinates
>     correction
>     <https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chapelle_Notre-Dame-des-Voirons_de_Bo%C3%ABge&diff=121789421&oldid=121556970>
>     for the chapel Chapelle Notre-Dame-des-Voirons de Boëge
>     <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapelle_Notre-Dame-des-Voirons_de_Bo%C3%ABge>
>     . Before this correction it had wrong coordinates placing it
>     erroneously on absolutely another mountain. I could correct it
>     reliably only after actually visiting this chapel for making some
>     photos for its article.
>
>     The comprehensive solution would be to have a dedicated Wikipedia
>     layer on the OpenStreetMap. Now we have Standard, Cycle,
>     Transport, and Humanitarian layers. Why not Wikipedia layer
>     similar to this
>     <http://ausleuchtung.ch/geo_wiki/?lat=46.18824490036672&lng=6.177406311035156&zm=14&lang=en&ds=wiki&rd=10>
>     , so that a user can select Wikipedia language and see the
>     geo-markers corresponding to Wikipedia articles on the map. Or see
>     clickable geo-markers corresponding to wikipedia=*,
>     wikimedia_commons=*, wikidata=* tags.
>
>     This tool is using MediaWIki API and Overpass API, but for the OSM
>     Wikipedia layer the data could be pre-calculated and synchronized
>     periodically in order not to overload the APIs.
>
>     In fact, I am using the OSM map mostly with Wikipedia markers. For
>     example, I was recently on a short holiday trip to Stockholm and
>     the first thing I do I look what Wikipedia articles exist for the
>     city
>     <http://ausleuchtung.ch/geo_wiki/?lat=59.324472209890146&lng=18.0710506439209&zm=16&lang=en&ds=wiki&rd=10>
>     to select places to visit and to read about. So in my opinion,
>     such a Wikipedia layer would be kind of synergy, - the creation of
>     a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Oleksiy
>
>
>     On 04.01.17 10:27, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote:
>>     Hi Yurik,
>>
>>     Nice work.
>>     I'm interested in make such validation a service, to identify and
>>     fix any inconsistencies between OpenStreetMap and
>>     Wikipedia/Wikidata.
>>     I'll be working on that on the next days.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     J. Gustavo
>>
>>     Às 09:11 de 03-01-2017, Yuri Astrakhan escreveu:
>>>     I have been steadily cleaning up some (many) broken Wikipedia and
>>>     Wikidata tags, and would like to solicit some help :)
>>>
>>>     To my knowledge, there is no site where one could add a set of
>>>     OSM IDs
>>>     that need attention (something like a bug tracker lite, where
>>>     one could
>>>     come and randomly pick a few IDs to fix), so I made a few tables:
>>>
>>>     List of Wikipedia tags that do not resolve to Wikidata tags.
>>>     Most of the
>>>     time, the WP tag is incorrect, sometimes it was deleted, and
>>>     very rarely
>>>     there is no matching Wikidata item (needs to be created by hand).
>>>     * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yurik/OSM_NoWD
>>>     <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yurik/OSM_NoWD>
>>>
>>>     List of duplicate Wikidata tags:
>>>     * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yurik/OSM_duplicates2
>>>     <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yurik/OSM_duplicates2>
>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>
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