[OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Wed Nov 1 05:53:21 UTC 2017


On 01-Nov-17 03:10 PM, Stephane Goldstein wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     On 01-Nov-17 09:24 AM, Stephane Goldstein wrote:
>>
>>         B)
>>         depreciate landuse=forest and introduce a clearly defined
>>         landuse=forestry that only includes tree areas that produce
>>         base material for human use.
>>
>>     Managed forest for product harvesting  are commonly identified as
>>     Plantations,
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>     Possibly in your area of the world.
>     But not in Australia.
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> I live in Tasmania, and work in forestry.
> http://www.agriculture.gov.au/abares/forestsaustralia/profiles/industrial-plantations

Ha. Sorry .. one of the 'common' people here ..  'forests' is the term I 
come across regularly.
"pine plantations" might be a goer .. but I would not use that term for 
hardwood forests amongst the 'common' people.
I would take a 'plantation' to be a uniform row on row planting, quite a 
few hardwood forests are not configured this way. Thus they don't fit 
with my perception of a 'plantation'.

In Alabama plantations were cotton farms .. but are now houses?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plantations_in_Alabama
Looks to be similar now in adjacent states.

Plantation is used for more than timber .. and that is a problem in that 
people will use it for all the other things ... just like they have used 
landuse=forest inappropriately.

If OSM were to have landuse=plantation there would need to be a further 
tag 
plantation=cotton/tobacco/coffee/sugar_cane/trees/banana///house/bushes/*

Do you have any other words that smean tree planting, growing and then 
harvesting?? And don't mean anything else?
The closest I have is 'forestry'.

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>     My Dictionary says plantation means;
>     1) a farm or estate, especially in a tropical or sub tropical
>     country, on which cotton, tabacco, coffee, sugar or the like is
>     cultivated, usually by resident labours.
>     2) a group of planted trees or plants
>     [late ME from planting]
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>>     which I think would be most appropriate term for landuse tag in
>>     that case.
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation>
>>     http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dplantation
>>     <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dplantation>
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>     Those too include things other than trees, and even with trees
>     they don't exclude trees not intended for production of material
>     for human use.
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