[OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

Rory McCann rory at technomancy.org
Fri Nov 10 12:41:28 UTC 2017


If someone points out a problem, surely it's better for the
developer to think about whether they have a point, about whether your
software should act this way, rather than just saying "But JOSM does it!".

Do *you* think removing layer=0 is a good idea? What is the objection to
removing it?

Just because someone else does a bad thing doesn't mean you have to copy
them. Is your tool merely "JOSM validator, but with SPARQL and on the web"?

On 09/11/17 21:48, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> JB, the "layer=0 removal" is one of the JOSM validations - it 
> automatically gets suggested to anyone editing an area with that object, 
> with the "fix" button autofixing it.  JOSM doesn't have a "mark this 
> autofix as invalid" button, which means that even if you don't autofix 
> it, the next person reviewing the same area may. This sounds identical 
> to the issue raised by Simon above:
>  > ...you don't actually "confirm" that something is a good edit or not. 
> You only have the choice of making an edit or leaving it to others to 
> do. ... This makes the whole thing entirely equivalent to a mechanical edit.
> 
> So we should either A) remove it from JOSM, or B) define when it should 
> be kept vs deleted, because otherwise we are not being consistent with 
> requirements.
> 
> In JOSM: 
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/josm/trunk/data/validator/unnecessary.mapcss?rev=12999#L6
> 
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:56 AM, JB <jbosm at mailoo.org 
> <mailto:jbosm at mailoo.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Le 08/11/2017 à 19:43, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit :
> 
>         removing layer=0
> 
>     Please don't. Once again, mapping is done by humans, and layer=0 IS
>     sometimes useful to humans, even if computers don't need it.
> 
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