[OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

[Marc Gemis]

Would Yuri's tool be OK, if the proposed changes were limited to
objects that were created/last edited after survey to the person that
is using the tool ?

I was thinking of a scenario where people try to help with a
tag-renaming proposal.
Such a tool would be handy to help them locate all objects that they
know well and retag them.

m.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
<dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> Frederik:
>>
>> I am appalled that after your abysmal OSM editing history where you more
>> often than not ignored existing customs rules, while *claiming* to
>> follow them, you're now building a service that entices others to do the
>> same.
>
>
>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 6:09 AM Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de> wrote:
>>> This is a tool to perform automated edits as per the automated edits
>>> policy.  A resposible developer of such a tool should inform its users
>>> that making automated edits comes with certain requirements and that
>>> not following these rules can result in changes being reverted and user
>>> accounts being blocked.
>
>
> 2017-10-14 13:06 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Christoph, I looked around Osmose and MapRoulette, and I don't see any
>> such warnings . Could you elaborate how you would like these kinds of tools
>> to promote good editing practices? Any UI ideas? I'll be happy to improve
>> our tools on making sure they meet community expectations.
>
>
>
> I agree with Christoph and Frederik, that this is oviously a tool to perform
> (crowdsourced) automated edits, and although it is designed in a way to make
> them look like individual contributions, the automated editing guidelines
> should apply. I agree with Yuri that there is also (to some lesser extent,
> as the editing is not performed by the tool) some problematic potential in
> other QA tools like Osmose or "remote batch fixing" tools like MapRoulette.
>
> The thing with remotely "fixing tags" is that people usually don't know the
> situation on the ground and therefore hardly can make an individual decision
> for the specific object. The proposed "one-click-solution" encourages to do
> quick "fixes" without looking individually, and you even refuse to notify
> people that they might be participating in an automated edit. In examples
> like the one you gave, even if you look very hard, you won't see something
> that confirms the proposed change (you will have to know the place). I could
> imagine there are good cases where your tool can facilitate fixing problems,
> e.g. with clear typos (highway=residental), but changing from one tag to a
> combination of two is not one of them (either we could make an automated
> edit, or if it's disputed, we wouldn't do it at all, rather than sneaking it
> in via distributed automated editing).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
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