[OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Rory, thanks, and that's why I think it is a bad idea to do bot edits
without first running it through my tool.  If we do a mass edit, we have to
go through a very lengthy community consensus study, which might still miss
things. Then the bot developer might still make an error that is not likely
to be caught for quiet some time, until it is very hard to revert. On the
other hand, if a query is made, reviewed by community, and later many
people try going through it, accepting and rejecting changes, we will know
if we caught all the corner cases like the one you just gave. If noone has
rejected anything for a long time, a bot can simply pick up the query and
finish running it.  Much safer.

As for "community consensus" - TBH, very hard to define.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:

> On 15/10/17 15:14, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> > 1. If this does not require humans because both tagging schemes are
> > mutually translatable (i.e. lets say for sport=handball <->
> > sport=team_handball), then, the edit can be made automatically by a bot.
>
> Except.... that's not true. In Ireland "handball" is Gaelic Handball¹
> which is a one-on-one game, not a team sport (which is apparently a
> different thing²). There are some sport=handball's tagged in Ireland.
> Now the tag is clearly wrong, and we need to figure out something about
> that. But if you just change sport=handball to sport=team_handball, then
> you've entered incorrect data, based on incorrect assumptions.
>
> There is the use case where one tagging scheme has been deprecated by
>> community consensus and one (combination of) tag(s) should be changed
>> into another (combination of) tag(s) globally.
>>
>
> Big question: What defines "community consensus"?
>
> Though, note, for all three cases, a prior consensus is required, either
>> by prior discussion or by looking at what was previously agreed on in
>> the wiki. That is the case for *any* organized re-tagging of existing
>> tags.
>>
>
> Not everyone (incl me) thinks that the wiki defines what a tag should
> mean...
>
>
> ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_handball
> ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handball
>
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