[OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

[Yuri Astrakhan]

I agree that the tool requires some additional work.  It seems almost all
of the criticism has been directed at the hypothetical "community clicking
rampage" - where the query is stored on a wiki, and some user runs it
thoughtlessly. At the same time, several skilled users have expressed their
desire to use it for their own work.  Hence, as a good compromise between
the two, how about I disable the "embed edit".  If the query is executed
from a link, without the query editor mode, users can only view results.
But in the power mode, the users can still use the tool to write a query
they need, test and edit things as they need.   So its ok to use it as a
power editor (e.g. JOSM or Level0), but not as mass contribution.

In the mean time, I will add the "two person approval required", which
should alleviate expressed concern.  Should be ready fairly soon.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 10/16/2017 11:10 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> > Anyway, generally, with everyone raising the alarm about this tool, it
> > would be a friendly gesture to either take the tool offline for now or
> > set it to read-only mode
>
> Or have it run on the dev API.
>
> > So then, the solution is simple: Make the quick-fix tool to only record
> > confirms and rejects into a separate database and let the tool not make
> > actual edits to OSM. The confirms and most importantly the rejects are
> > shown on the tool's interface, so the problems in the automatic query
> > can be addressed.
>
> The "Kort game" has followed a similar approach. When they started, they
> first only recorded things internally and also had more than one user
> confirm each edit. After test-driving that for a while and assessing the
> quality of results, they started a discussion about if and how the Kort
> results could automatically be applied to OSM. It was a slow process but
> one that went to great lengths to respect how OSM works and not to
> "disrupt" anything. The makers of "Kort" probably spent as much time on
> making their tool acceptable to the community as they spent on
> developing it - but that's what you have to do when you deal with humans
> and not just an API.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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