[OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrakhan at gmail.com
Tue Oct 17 19:31:37 UTC 2017


Rory, I agree with you - there are always corner cases.  And while we
concentrate on the geographical aspect (e.g.  "somewhere there might be a
large territory where the tags mean different thing"), the corner case can
actually exist in our own neighborhood, simply because our neighbor
understood some tags to mean something different.

To use the a handball vs team_handball example - if it wasn't for you, no
one would have been aware of such a distinction, and if we had a @talk
discussion of the global bot autorename to fix it, there is a good chance
it __might__ have been overlooked, and damage would be done - we don't have
as many people monitoring @talk, as we have actually mapping things.  But
if someone made a challenge to convert handball->team_handball, someone
would have caught it in your area, thus flagging the issue globally,
documenting the distinction, and cleaning up the other areas where having a
mix of both values is incorrect.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:

> On 16/10/17 19:49, Tobias Zwick wrote:
>
>> Except.... that's not true. In Ireland "handball" is Gaelic Handball¹
>>> which is a one-on-one game, not a team sport (which is apparently a
>>> different thing²). There are some sport=handball's tagged in Ireland.
>>> Now the tag is clearly wrong, and we need to figure out something about
>>> that. But if you just change sport=handball to sport=team_handball, then
>>> you've entered incorrect data, based on incorrect assumptions.
>>>
>>
>> Good catch. So, it is no good as an example for that. But no matter, I
>> think the idea got across anyhow.
>>
>
> The idea that automated edits and tag replacements on a worldwide scale
> are a bad idea and might have edge cases you've never heard about? 😉
>
> but it is the only documentation we have.
>>
>
> Not really. We have editors, and what they do, map styles and what they
> do, programmes like osm2pgsql and what they do. That's a form of
> "unwritten documentation".
>
>
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